Vent about moronic opinions

Just needed to vent about something I read last night and figured this was as good a place as any to do it as you guys might understand.

Anyway I was reading this editorial/blog on a news site last night where the author had received a letter asking for advice. It was from a woman who described herself as a naturalist (hippy not nudist!) and she had this lesbian friend who had decided to have IVF with her partner using an anonymous sperm donor. The hippy had a problem with this not because the friend was gay but because she is against all forms of IVF and creating 'artificial' babies. Anyway the author explained that IVF was a wonderful thing and the babies weren't artificial but were created in the same way as all babies (ie. egg+sperm=baby) and not created using some combination of plastic, paper and chewing gum etc blah blah blah.

Anyway this particular blog generated a number of comments and as you can imagine most of them were about gay people having children. BUT some people focused in on the issue of IVF in general. one guy said that IVF was wrong because infertility was nature's way of telling you shouldn't have children. Now when I read that I just had steam coming out of my ears . I mean seriously how dare he condescending arrogant pr*ck.

What makes him think that it's ok for Nia Glassie's or the Kahui twins' parents to have children just because nature let them while kind decent caring people like my husband and I shouldn't because I have endometriosis and that's natures way of telling me I shouldn't have children. If all life was still about survival of the fittest and weeding out the weak then wouldn't nature make it so that the junkies, paedophiles and child abusers were infertile instead of people who look after themselves and have the kind of personality that allows them to have good stable jobs and actually WANT children. And to go to an extreme (and I don't beleive this at all I'm just trying to show how stupid this guy's comment was) wouldn't 'nature' prevent people who have certain genetic traits that create hereditary diseases from having children.

Anyway that's my vent - the guy just made me so made that I wanted to slap him

MrsMojo wrote: OMG.  I want to smack him too.

Me too what an absolute b@stard!!!

good news your last lap was clear all the best for TTC after your next AF fingers crossed for you chick!

I cannot believe some people have such stupid ideas. I'd want to slap him too

Good luck with the TTCing

Wonder if his opinion would be different if he desperately wanted children and him and his partner were infertile? Ignorant tw*t!

I knew you ladies would agree!!

It just made me so mad because as the author pointed out if IVF is artificial so is all medical intervention - chemotherapy isn't exactly natural but I bet he wouldn't tell a cancer patient that it was wrong for them to have it because it was natures way of controlling the population.

Why is it that because IVF isn't life threatening or something that makes you really sick people don't think that its a legitimate medical condition. Other comments on the article were about how the government shouldn't pay for IVF because it's not something that's medically necessary

And thanks for all the good wishes - I hope all you who are still TTC get your BFPs soon

Agghh!! That makes me so mad too! some people just don't know when to keep their mouth shut.

Hi Gannet
I was too mad to be PC!!

Besides I don't think it necessarily is un-PC as such. I was watching TV the other day and they had someone on there who said there are 60,000 cases of reported child abuse in NZ each year. Even if you were extremely generous and said that 90% of those were unfounded, or repeat offenders, etc that still leaves 6000 child abusers out there. It's just beyond me how people like that can procreate at will (or even without will) while decent people have to struggle for years with infertility and fertility treatments.

One thing this journey has taught me is that you never take anything for granted and you appreciate everything you have even if (or especially if) you don't have everything you want. So for some moron to say that it's nature's way of telling us we shouldn't have children just pisses me off.

ARGGGHHHHHHHH

I get so upset by these ill-informed idiots.... My initial reaction would be to ask if that means that people who are diagnosed with terminal illnesses are not supposed to live???

It's truly hurtful and pathetic... I had one friend say to me that she hoped that I didn't have to do IVF so that I could have a real baby... WTF!!! These people are seriously demented.

I purposely stay away from any public stuff about infertility because it is usually too hurtful to read.

MrsMojo wrote: JenCal wrote: It's truly hurtful and pathetic... I had one friend say to me that she hoped that I didn't have to do IVF so that I could have a real baby...    WTF?  Does she think IVF means you're off to see Geppetto to get a wooden puppet?  I hope she took her foot out of her mouth long enough to apologise for that thoughtless comment.

apparently so... and she didn't apologise, she honestly didn't get why I was offended or what was wrong with her comments.
I have given up trying to educate people...

I get what you mean.  Sometimes it's not worth wasting your breath.