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Originally posted by busymum busymum wrote:

Not to contradict CuriousG but a school teacher I know told me that she has noticed in her classroom that the clearer talkers are often the ones that engage in conversation with their parents, not just kids their age.


I'd have to agree with you there Theresa. I guess it's because they don't understand the babble from their peers where adults clearly speak the words they know (usually lol)

And in answer to your question about how much she talks - too blardy much!
I made a list of all the words she was saying clearly and in the right context when she was 18 months and it was huge, she's now 22 months and that list would have easily doubled.

Her new word is "jack-et"
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We may be a little different here, as Xanda suffers from Glue ear and has only just had his Grommets in, a big push was put through for the grommets as his speech was deteriorating very rapidly. But in the last couple of weeks before the grommets his vocab improved greatly as well as the clarity of his speech.

The list of his words would be too long to write out but a couple of favourite new ones at the moment are 'mine' and 'everyone' - which he says to all his teddies as he is putting them to bed, 'nite nite everyone'.

I agree that listening to adults speaking has a great influence on children and their speech. So maybe suggest to your hubby, lots of chatter throughout the day, I babble about everything I am doing and give a running commentary.
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I think what Teresa said makes sense too, I think the gremlins don't have a lot of 'words' coz they are constantly chatting to each other in nonsensical babble non stop so they don't *need* words, whereas with Maya there was only her and I so she had to engage in conversation with me.
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We have been adding up James' words and he just about can say 50 and he said his first proper sentence today to jesse which was "I want more bubbles" lol




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Originally posted by Danni-chick Danni-chick wrote:

We have been adding up James' words and he just about can say 50 and he said his first proper sentence today to jesse which was "I want more bubbles" lol


Mmmm, I say that quite often too - although my bubbles are alcoholic not soapy
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My MIL just told me that DH didn't talk at this age either. He (the last of 8 kids) just pointed when he wanted something and one of his 9 family members would get it for him.

So, with that biology (i.e. stubborn perfectionist mum and a dad who thinks he's royalty) it's no surprise really!
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we are well past twenty words now...some lot clearer than others but always in the right context. She has also started saying yes and no in right places too now. Complete with a head shake! DOH!

Her faves are still Tiger (now comes with a "roar"), and "dog" and "bubba" She has progressed to "char-lie" (her carer at DC) and some other two syllable ones so we know Tiger is not a fluke. One of her first words (apart from ELLA) was "georgia" - our dog. Damn near fell over when that came outta her mouth well pre one!

worst one that we DO have to explain - the pointing to the sky and saying "da DA" - mummy thought she would be funny and teach her "da plane da plane" - aka fantasy island...little monkey thought she would be funny back and drop "plane" DOH!!!!!!!!!!
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I think boys tend to speak later than girls because if we want to compare (WHICH I HATE DOING BECAUSE EVERY BABY DOES THEIR OWN THING IN THEIR OWN TIME) Lucas is couple weeks younger than BSDD and he definitely doesn't speak anywhere near 20 words yet.

Mum, Mumma, Dad, Dada, Gah (means poppa or my brother ...male adults generally), Cat and my fave - Nana (so cute when he does this).

He used to say 'what dat?' as clear as day but stopped saying it after 10 months old.

I still think he is too young to be speaking, I'm led to believe they really don't have much control over language until 18 months of age +

I think the main thing is sign language & understanding of words, demands & questions etc.

For example if I ask for a book, ball etc he will go and get them and bring them over to me, if I tell him to clap or play peek-a-boo he will...and high fives. We dance together, and he points when I say wheres the plane and he finds it in the sky....He recognizes words I use everyday and he can relate them to a task or object basically, and when we read books he seems to know whats coming up ...the expression in his face tells all.

He does a lot of baby sign language also, when he wants a drink or booby he does this suckling thing with his hands ...like he;s milking a cow? lol

I'm not really concerned about his language at all, I read him plenty of books & talk throughout the day to him . I do think that playcentre/daycares can play a part in kids vocab BUT in saying that there are a lot of cons in sending them to places like that too.

I'm happy, Lucas is happy, healthy & thriving. Thats all that matters :)

Michaela is beautiful Jo and she sounds like a right character, I wouldn't be too worried.

Plunket like to put the fear of God into parents, the amount of times they made Mum take me to specialists and waste hundreds of dollars only to come out and be told I had eaten too many carrots or that I was fine ...it's ridiculous.

Ok Essay over and out
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Forgot to say that Xanda has always responded to Maaori much more clearly than english, and is now building up quite a maaori vocab, which nearly equals the amount of english words he speaks. So I suppose he hasn't got too bad a word list if you add both languages together.
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I personally think all kids have their strengths just like we do. Some are physical, some are talkers etc. Elle has always done the gross motor skills in strange ways and out of order but she is a huge talker. Her vocab is probably in excess of 100 words that she uses regularly, without prompting and in context and she has many sentences. DH and I were both talkers so in our case it is genetics. But put her with kids like Emma's Gremlins and although they are younger, their physical skills are way better than Elle's.

The ranges of "normal" are huge and at this point I certainly wouldn't be worried about Michaela. She seems like a very onto it little lady.
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and Ella responds to Cambodian too....my BF is cambodian and speaks dialects and chinese to her and she responds and understands now....Im screwed if she learns to speak it cause i dont understand most of it.



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steph - found this...

Though speech develops pretty much the same way for all children, the pace can vary considerably from child to child. As a rule of thumb, children should be able to say one word at about 1, two-word combinations at 18 months to 2 years, and three-word sentences before turning 3. When speech specialists evaluate delayed speech, they care as much about a child's understanding as they do about how much he speaks. For instance, although a typical 18-month-old can say 50 to 100 words, he can understand far more. Making gestures and following directions indicate that your child is understanding and communicating, and there's likely little reason to worry.

Boys: They often develop speech later than girls, though there's usually only about a one- to two-month lag. At 16 months, boys use an average of 30 words, while girls tend to use around 50.

Famous late talkers
When you're tired of being asked when your child is going to talk, remember that these successful people didn't begin talking until they were at least 2 -- and, in some cases, 4!

Gary Becker, Nobel Prize-winning economist
Albert Einstein
Julia Robinson, the first woman president of the American Mathematical Society
Arthur Rubinstein, piano virtuoso
Edward Teller, physicist and nuclear power pioneer

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Originally posted by Mum2Lucas Mum2Lucas wrote:

(WHICH I HATE DOING BECAUSE EVERY BABY DOES THEIR OWN THING IN THEIR OWN TIME)


Agreed! But it is just a tad annoying if you want a 'round about' figure, and Googling it or referring to child development books etc, they'll tell you all sorts of different numbers that range dramatically! There's no doubt that comparing, whether parents might claim to do it or not, goes on in groups of friends/antenatal groups. I know as a parent, I might hear something and think 'hmmm, I wonder why Ashlee is/isn't doing that'. (That doesn't mean that I'll try and make her do whatever it is that the other kid might be doing! Haha!! So true. Kids all develop so differently.)

Ashlee says in excess of 200 words - we started to write them down (granted, she doesn't use ALL of those in her every day speech! ) plus 3, 4 and 5 word sentences. My cousin's child is 3 months younger than Ash is and he doesn't seem to speak much but he can act out whatever it is he wants to say! So I agree, kids are all skilled in different ways when it comes to picking up new things and each have their own developmental styles. And their surroundings definitely impact that too.

I'm sure you'll be incredibly shocked with what Michaela will come out with when she decides to talk non-stop again! Be sure to let us know hehe will be interesting!
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Michaela's understanding is definitely outstanding. I commented before Christmas (she was about 19mo) how nice it is to be able to ask her to do something and she will (if she chooses to). Or I bribe her "lie down for a nappy change then you can feed the cat" and sure enough she knows what I'm saying.

She doesn't need to talk as we always provide her with options (eg. when choosing what book to read or what she wants to eat) and all she needs to do is say mmm-hmmm to the one she wants.

I'm convinced that she has a 'hidden' vocabulary though, not just because there are words she's stopped using but also yesterday she was being looked after by my mum and my niece. She decided she wanted me and started searching the house calling "mum...mum" when I didn't respond to this she got quite upset and started yelling for me "Jo....Jo.."

I've never heard her use my first name before, she usually calls me mum or if I'm busy and not responding quick enough she use mummy, but obviously she knows how to say it and thought she'd use it since 'mum' wasn't working.

I am anti forcing her to talk if she doesn't want to, now I just need to convince DH to give her a bit more time before calling in the plunket nurse again (if she's still not talking much in June).
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McKayla started to talk really early. AT 4 and a half months when I went to hospital for an emergency op she would start saying nanan for mamma and will just use it if she wanted to come to me. It changed to mamma at 5 and a half months. At 6 months she was able to say yada (for yoda our one cat) Taz (dogs name) Pappa (afrikaans for daddy) dadda, booboo. She slowed down at about 10 months and then had quite a few words at about 13 months and then just stopped. She will babble and you cant hear her to the point that I actually worried as people commented on it the whole time. At 18 months I started listening carefully and she will use words here and there but just didnt use them as such. We could understand her and she understood one hell of a lot actually.

Then the 2 year mark came and Plunket told me that we need to reassess and I told them to bugger off. I wasnt that worried as she is really far advance with everything else. Building puzzles meant for 4 year olds ect. And then she just took off. Within a day she learned all her colours and then just started babbling. I found kids her age to talk more sometimes but not understanding their parents that well and she actually grasps concepts.

So I really wont be worried as such.


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Michaela started talking about the same age as your wee one. She said Mumma for ages before I finally admitted (at 5mo) that she was using it as my name. Like McKayla her next word was cat and daddy got a look in too.

Sounds like she is pretty much the same, developmentally, as McKayla. She understands us really well (maybe a bit too well ) and we communicate fine.

I know that she is ok, totally within the bounds of normal plus I've always been confident that she will pick up her language again but it is nice to hear of someone else that's experienced the same thing.

One of my favourite sayings when mums start comparing their kids development (which we all do whether we like it or not) is "by 5 yo it won't matter".
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