Vaccinations and vitamin k for babies

What are people's thoughts on this?
I have looked into the Vitamin K arguments on both sides and have decided against the injection and will be doing the oral doses instead (that much Vit K in one dose can't be good for a newborn if they saying adults shouldn't have too much of it! And also for the most benefit Vit K should be absorbed by the gut, which when it is injected it is not). Seems the injection also has a very tenuous link to leukaemia later in their childhood but that hasn't really proven, only 2 studies, and later studies totally contradicted that one.
And thoughts on immunisations? Again, I don't like the idea of all the injections together, I would much prefer them spaced out - again, it's a new baby, their bodies have so much to cope with already! I definitely agree they need to be immunised, but I wonder if we can space the injections out more. Again there was talk about the injections having a slight link to ADD, but it seems that is linked to what they used in the injections mainly in the US, NZ hasn't used that for a few years now (can't remember what it was, perhaps mercury??).
My husband says trust the drs, but I think it is abit like science - alot of very qualified people have different ideas, and drs, being human, can also get things very wrong!!!
Anyway, be interested in what others think... do yuo think I am being too fussy, or do you think it is worth checking out these things fully before giving them to our babies?

I opted for the oral doses, which my midwife did for me and was pretty easily done. I much prefered this over injecting a newborn baby when they have got so much else to deal with, and as you said surely it is better for it to be taken orally if it is absorbed in the gut!

I've decided to have Vit K administered to my baby when she arrives and it will be via vaccination by my MW, then she knows its done and with the oral they can easily not digest it all.

Baby will be vaccinated not sure of the administration of this as yet though, ie: when or how many.

I don't think your being fussy I was asked to find out about Vit K for myself and I'm happy to have it administered to my baby after her birth.

We have a history of bleeding in our family. I didn't want to risk bleeding issues (like what I have after surgeries) so they got jabbed.

Emmecat wrote: C&J- that's why they get 3 doses of the oral plus a spare as a back up lol

My understanding was the 3 doses were equivalent to the single vaccination dose.

amme_eilyk wrote: bubs will be having the vit k injection and the vaccinations as recommended.

same here

You need to do research if you are unsure & especially seeing you & your DH are on different pages.

Search on here as there have been a heap of discussions/debate/aguements re vaccinations but there is useful information in amongst it all.

I have opted to separate out the vax my boy recieves, based on the fact his body is fighting food allergies & his immune system isn't in a normal state. So where you get 2 or 3 at once they are staggered out.

She gave the tetanus jab after her child got a deep puncture wound.

We didn't do vit k for our first, elective c/s, we did for our second, vontouse delivery. However we gave the jab and after reading more about it i would not do it in the future, I'm not sure I would give it at all but if I did I would opt for the oral instead (I think, if we have a third I shall be doing much more research beforehand).

My boys have had no vaccinations at all, we were going to delay when we had the first but after much more research have decided not to vax at all.

Mercury was removed from nz vaccines on the childhood schedule in 2000 (as a way to limit mercury intake, recommendations for limiting fish during pregnancy and first 12 months is for this reason also) it is however in other vaccines that are not on the regular schedule, including the flu jab (multidose, not single vial). There are many other concerning ingredients in vaccines though and the schedule as a whole has never been tested so no idea what the interaction of all these different toxins is. (thimerosal, is the name of the mercury preservative and it is still used in some cases in the US, it was advised that vaccine companies phase it out, they have been pretty lax at actually bothering to do that, but it does pay to bare that in mind especially when a lot of the information does come out of the US as it's not always relevant to NZ vaccines, the US also have a ludicrous number of jabs they give, it's quite sickening actually.)

My only real advice is to research research research until you are 100% happy in what you are doing. And I totally agree with you about not blindly following what a dr says, different doctors have different ideas and there are many many doctors out there who do not agree with vaccination. Sadly a lot of GPs do not have the time to research everything so if a jab is on the schedule they will assume it is well researched and safe and give it out without ever reading a single piece of literature on it. If you partner does still want to do it I would suggest having a meeting with the doc and getting the doc to at least run through the package insert of the vax with you and your dh, before you make the final decision.

Oh if you want any ideas of where to research etc pm me, I'm happy to forward some info to you, it is usually biased as I have never found unbiased, but I just look at what both sides are saying and draw my own conclusions from it.

Oh thanks M took ages doing my post coz I got distracted as usual!

Kelly, I had to scroll up to see your question, had completely missed it on the first read through

Selective vaxxing is only doing certains ones not the whole schedule and some people like to split jabs up as well, so they may give the measles vaccine but not the MMR for example (I'm not sure that's actually possible in nz, but in other countries the single jabs are still available). Also some people will not do boosters either as boosters dont' actually boost, they are either needed because the immune response from the vaccine wains over time (whooping cough rough 5 years, some others 15 years, tetanus 10 years etc) so you are being revaxed not boosted or it's to pick up those who don't respond to one jab, having a second jab of MMR at age 4 is to pick up the kids who don't respond to the first jab so some parents choose to play the odds and not do the second jab as it's likely their child had a response from the first jab, the second one is actually only given because it cheaper to jab all kids again rather than test which ones have antiboides and only jab those that don't.

Of course as we all know though antibody response from a vaccine does not = immunity to the actual disease.

HTH

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