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    Posted: 15 February 2009 at 9:47pm
Hi ladies, I am starting IUI next cycle and keen to hear any stories - I know nothing!
Brief on me. Got preg Nov 2007 whilst on BCP, miscarried at 11 wks. Long, painfull, mistreated miscarriage that needed a 2nd D&C 4 months later. got BFP month after but mc at 5 wks. Since then no BFP despite 4 cycles of clomid. Each clomid cycle they have reduce the medication - started on 50mg and last cycle was 12.5mg, each cycle I have produced a minimum of 4 follicals so have been told not to try - but we have! DH has perfect swimmers and nothing wrong with me at all - so just very frustrating!!! My specialist said i can do IUI with clomid 12.5mg. If I have more than 3 follicals they will do a process called reduction - ie reduce follicals so I only have 2 or 3 (apparently a painfull proceedure!). Specialist also offered us IVF - but that just seems a step to far for me at the mo. Specialist also said that as I react very very well (he has only ever seen a couple of women react so strongly to such low clomid) that I would run a risk of hyper...something! which could make me very very sick, due to all the medication they put you on for IVF, as I obviously react very well and sensitive! Anyway, am about CD 22 so AF due next weekend and then we will begin the IUI - would love to hear anyone going through this, been through this etc.
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Hi Bree

We are just starting first IVF cycle after two unsuccessful IUI cycles. We have unexplained infertility and 6 months of low dose clomid (25mg) produced one good follicle but no BFP.

We did IUI thru Fert Assoc in Wgtn and we found them excellent. They are great at explaining the steps to you and most days I got a call from them explaining what to do next (blood test, or take drugs that night etc).
I took 50mg clomid and then each cycle also did a couple of FSH (puregon) injections at low dose plus I also had the trigger injection 36 hours before treatment. Each cycle produced two really good follicles. The treatment itself was not as bad as I was expecting - like a smear test in that you are in stirrups and they use a speculum - they insert the spermies using a very narrow catheter - all over in about 15 mins!
We initally wanted to go straight to IVF because the success rates for IUI are not very high (20% for first cycle, 15% for 2nd cycle and I think10% for thrid cycle), but our specialist convinced us to do IUI first because unsuccessful cycles count towards govt funding points for IVF.
Even though it didn't work, I think it was a good stepping stone for us to IVF - some of the injectibles used for IUI are the same as for IVF, and the embryo transfer for IVF is pretty much the same as the IUI treatment except with a longer catheter.

Hope this is useful. Good luck!
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Hi Bree,
We just did our first IUI yesterday!
We have been ttc for nearly 2 years, been on clomiphene for 1 year approx and came off it to have an operation last nov. fixed up some scarring, tried natural for 3 months and no luck so trying IUI now. it was stressful leading up to it as was waiting for the LH surge and it was typically 3 days late and on a sunday lunchtime so we thought we might miss out as too late for monday but the timing worked well and it was done yesterday morning. it was a piece of cake, just like a smear as loubee said, nice and easy and over in 15 mins. Now we face the dreaded 2 week wait. it would be great to talk to people in the same situation as its such an emotional time eh.   if you want to chat more email me on janettem@xtra.co.nz

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Hi all

We're going to have our fourth IUI in a couple of weeks, so I'm a bit of an old hand
We've been ttc literally for years; DH has a low count etc post vas reversal. Everything seems to be fine with me, except that I'm relatively old.
I'm on 100mg clomid, which has produced two or three good follies every time and I've twice had the trigger injection too, but no luck so far.
We've decided this will be our last attempt, so fingers crossed!
Good luck girls..
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AF arrived for me today. Cycle 4 of clomid, told not to BD - too many follicals, but we still BD anyway! And still no baby!! So rather down today. Not sure if we will start IUI this month as we are away for a week which should be around O time - so may be the following month. Frustrating for me is that both DH and I have nothing wrong with us. I am having a scan end of this week to check my tubes again - last time all good, but FA said to check again can't hurt. Its so frustrating with both DH and I all good, me ovulating each cycle and being very responsive to low low levels ie 12mg (4 follicals) of clomid and yet still no baby!    The last week I have felt quite depressed, esp as I thought clomid would work.
Please keep me posted with all your IUI journeys.
Catie - wow 4 cycles, what is next?
JMac how is the TWW?
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Hi guys,
wow catie, 4 cycles - how many will they do? i have been told they will only do 3 on me here in chch. Are you in chch?
I just turned 36 a week ago so time is ticking for me too.
Bree - dont you hate it when they say too many follicals and too risky - i say bring it on, i dont mind hitting more than one, but i also say to them that we havent had any luck hitting one what makes you think we will hit two lol ! they def arent keen on it tho.
Chin up dol, I know its hard and majorly frustrating - and hormones dont help at AF time!
The 2WW is darned hard, 1 week down today and 1 week to go, i have the early preg tests so im trying really hard not to do it as i dont want to get upset if its too early. plus im trying not to get too excited as it just doesnt feel like i have enough luck for it to work on the first IUI. i dont feel any different tho? i was at a wine festival yesterday and even didnt drink just in case! A friend said you shouldnt do any hard exercise in the 2WW time either? ive been gymming tho so i hope i havent done the wrong thing? the centre said to just do everything as per normal. (but what is normal when you are on the infertility journey eh! lol)
anyhoo good to chat to you guys. Keep me posted on how you are doing!
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Originally posted by jmac jmac wrote:


wow catie, 4 cycles - how many will they do? i have been told they will only do 3 on me here in chch. Are you in chch?



Hi again
I tink they pretty much keep doing them as long as you're willing to pay for them - the consent form I have, which is signed each time, has spaces for eight cycles. There is a point at which, statistically its not worth continuing - if it was going to work it would have, and we're pretty much at that point with this one. But we don't have any other options, unfortunately. I have a condition which means an increased likelihood of msc or extremely early birth, and don't qualify for funded IVF, so we've decided not to go privately - too much emotional and financial investment. So, wish me luck! (jmac we're in Akld, with Fert +)
and good luck to you guys.
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Hi catie,
i thought that they might let you do more if you were paying and its still alot cheaper than IVF so its def worth a few more shotsat it eh, i was searching on the net and saw some overseas forums where people had 5 or 6 and it finally worked which is why i wondered about ours here in nz?    Good luck with your fourth one - will be wishing the very best for you!
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The 2WW is now the 3 day Wait! eek! gosh it feels like forever at times!
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Hey jmac, how are you doing???
I had a scan yesterday - two nice looking follies on one side, only teeny ones on the other. bloods all looking good so far!
Bree, how are you doing?

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Hi catie,

Very cool, so how big were they? not far away from ripe I hope, ahh so you are now at the stage where ur doing the pee test each day til you get the smiley face! how exciting! Im good, i have 2 more days to wait and if no curse by monday i go for blood tests so either way i should know by monday afternoon -im petrified i have to say, scared of the disappointment - hence im too scared to do the early preg test too. but what will be will be i guess!
Its great that you got 2 follies, i only had 1 the last time - i was a bit disappointed as i wanted twice the chances but they gave me the whole 1 is better lecture (yeah right lol). would be cool if you got both!
All the best for the next few days til you get it done - keep me posted!
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Originally posted by jmac jmac wrote:

Hi catie,
Very cool, so how big were they? not far away from ripe I hope, ahh so you are now at the stage where ur doing the pee test each day til you get the smiley face! how exciting!


I think one was 15 and the other 9. I have to have another scan tomorrow, and if the bigger of the two has got to 18, I'll have the trigger tomorrow night and IUI on Monday. Nah, blood tests for me, not pee tests. I get a bit sick of them but it's all in a good cause! In the past I've usually had a good size one on each side, so I hope all the spermies choose the correct tube to swim up

Fingers crossed for you.

Have a good weekend everyone.
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I hope all your IUI cyclea are successful.

DH and I are going to our first specialist appointment on the 2nd April. I know that we will have a few test done before we can choose what to do next. We have unexplained fertility and I am sure they won't find anything wrong with either of us. My question is, how much does a cycle of iui and clomid cost?

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Hi Ladies
I am joining your chat cos I too have been on a 3 month cycle of Clomid in Chch and told that my next step would be IUI. We have been trying for just over 2 years and I had a miscarriage in Nov. We are both 35 and have tried vits and herbs from naturopath, now clomid and next IUI. Not exactly sure what that entails but fingers cross. We too have unexplained fertility.

Good luck everyone
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hi guys welcome to the forum! have a look at the last pages of the clompiphene pill poppers forum and that has some prices on it. its different depending what city you are in.
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Hi trying - i've been away for a few weeks, however have a similar story to you. My DH and I concieved 17 mths ago whilst on the pill not trying. Miscarried at 11 wks, dramas over miscarriage (thats another story) and preg again to miscarry again at 5 wks. Anyway since June last year - no BFP. Have had 4 months of clomid (over last 6 months) started on 50mg and reduced to 12.5mg and each cycle had 3 - 5 follicals so told not to try - but we did! And still no BFP. I was so confident it would work! So now we start IUI. Meeting with FA specialist again on Thur to go over the process and then I guess I start when AF arrives - should be about 2 wks.
How is everyone else going?
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Hi Bree,
Great news that you are taking the next step! I just did my first round of IUI last month (unsuccessful darn it) and are on round two now, just finished AF so am due for blood tests this friday and then a scan next week - should be doing the IUI about Fri 20th according to me - but our bodies do what they want so who knows! One thing i will share is that i really struggled with this first IUI being unsuccessful, i kept telling myself that it may not work first time but its new and exciting and the chances are higher so i think a part of my brain didnt listen and i was a real mess. Ive bounced back now tho and into round 2 and hoping i dont have the same war going on in my mind this month1 sounds like you have great follicals wtih 3-5 so that will increase your chances too. Good luck! Any questions dont hesitate to ask - its pretty simple, a bit uncomfy but over pretty quick, the worse part is waiting to get the timing right to do it and then of course the 2WW. Lets hope that this month is a successful month for lots of us on this site!
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Hi Bree
Welcome back Bree! I had an IUI with FSP on Monday of last week so am anxiously waiting for my blood test on Wednesday ! I have extra sore boobs, but trying not to read too much into that because I get PMT-based sore boobs, plus i'm taking extra progesterone which I think also can contribute to it - though I've had the progesterone before and haven't been this sore. Fortunately my DH is being extra sweet to me - he had been getting sick of TTC, so I'm really appreciating his sensitivity.

This is my 4th IUI; I haven't found the previous ones to be all that much different (in terms of discomfort) to having a smear, though the last one was cos of the FSP (an extra procedure where they squirt the prepared sperm directly into the tubes).

Good luck!
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hi catie - any news?
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Hi ladies, maybe I am the only "stupid" one out there, but thought I would pass this info on just in case there are others!
I thought EWCM was White! White and sticky/stretchy. I thought white like the white of an egg - when cooked. however speaking to the natropath yesterday and she said EWCM is clear - like the white of a raw egg and very slippery!   I guess I just didn't think about it to much and thought white meant white in colour!
the only CM I notice is normally in week 3 of cycle and I have White (as in colour white), thick I guess cloudy mucus and I thought this was EWCM - so I was thinking why is this in week 3 - bit late! So still actually not sure what this is, but at least i know it's not EWCM fertile mucus!
Also now worried that I dont produce EWCM and unsure what can be done about this. My natropath I am meeting with Friday and she said she has herbs etc to help and I also ordered some Pre-seed from baby4u. But keen to hear if any others thought this or have any solutions to having EWCM!
Good luck for tomorrow Catie
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