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    Posted: 14 January 2011 at 8:41pm

So as you can see i've totally stolen the title of another thread

There was a powercut tonight so DH and I sat down had dinner (sandwich) and talked about all sorts and obviously about baby 2.

This got me to wondering what you wish someone had told you before your 2nd came along or 3rd or whatever no.

Any tips for how to handle 2, how to minimise jealousy, what was the hardest part etc....


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Great topic FionaO, I'll be watching for replies with great interest!


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I wish I had remembered all the things I had done wrong with number one.... Like feed her to sleep, hold her too long, let her sleep on me too often

I wish I had gone to birthcare and relaxed a little after instead of coming straight home

I tried to include my big girl as much as I could, and thankfully she was ok with a new baby but was pretty mean to me for a few weeks, poor love
She is still a bit hard every now and then, dont push them or change anything else in their world when you have a new babe, an give them as much time as you can. and loads of cuddles
Consistency worked for us and speaking to her calmly and lovingly, even when she was tired and grouchy or just being 2

I wouldnt change it for the world, its lovely having two little pairs of arms around you, two sets of perfect rose bud lips to kiss, I never knew my heart could love sooo much all over again and I cant wait for another to join in the group hugs





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That jealousy can set in anytime, for us it has hit in the last few months or so. And Ben gets just as jealous as Ben
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That even though you wonder how you will be able to stretch yourself between two kids, you can, you somehow just do it.

That when the second is born, its just as amazing as the first, but in a different way and in my case, I felt even more love for my daughter because now she was a big sister





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I could be the only one that had this, but I wish someone had told me 2 things -
First, that my 2&1/2 yr old DD1 who adored me normally would go right off me for a couple of days after I had baby...until it was time for her to go home and leave me after every hospital visit, when she would break down crying and begging me to come home. It was sooo sad! Thankfully she came right when I got home.

Secondly, and this is hard to describe and I hope I dont sound weird, but I felt when my DD2 was born that my relationship with DD1 totally changed, like before I had the baby she was my everything, and suddenly it was all about the baby and I felt very distant from my older girl. It was an odd and quite horrible feeling, my DH reassured me it would come right once things settled down with having a newborn, and he was right; it didnt take long before I realised that I loved my wee girls equally.
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That you could feel such immense guilt after having your baby because you have changed your first childs life so much without them having a say it.

I was the opposite to muppetsmama... I found it very hard to "enjoy" Oliver because I was so close to Jake and was feeling so much guilt. I didnt want Jake at the hospital because I felt I needed to time to devote to my new child.

It was very hard on me, I felt like a terrible mother BUT as said above it does settle down and soon you cant remember life without them

Cant wait to add another to the family (no doubt I will feel guilty for making Ollie a middle child LOL).


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Oh so i guess my advice would be to run with it, your homrones will be out of whack, you will tired and full of emotion and those emotions may be unexpected but it will settle down.

As for jealousy... making sure your elder child gets plenty of one on one time with both of you (as much as reasonably possible, dont over do it!).

They adjust remarkably quickly, after a week being home Jake was happily giving Ollies kisses and cuddles and the smacks were few and far between!

What everyone told that was true... you cant imagine how you can love another person so much, that your heart can hold that much love but you can and its wonderful.


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Caitlyn had been my only baby for 7 years, I struggled heaps with feeling guilty, since it was just us for the first 5 years we had (and luckily still have) an amazing bond, I was lucky tho in that she was older and able to understand that little bit more .
However I still have times I struggle with feeling guilty ,doesn't change my love for them both tho





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Originally posted by TheKelly TheKelly wrote:

That when the second is born, its just as amazing as the first, but in a different way and in my case, I felt even more love for my daughter because now she was a big sister

I felt like that as well
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I wasn't worried at all about not loving him as much..i must be weird:) but I wish someone had told me my feelings were normal you know? i felt guilty about not spending time with my older one..(was our first time apart) and changing his life.. and guilty i felt more bonded to the little one.. as Ethan didn't want me much as he couldn't cuddle me towards the end...and I had forgotten that truly helpless feeling of not knowing what to do..I also felt...differently but just as strong towards Ethan..now he was a big brother..but he's still my baby you know:) and just as bonded just in different ways

I wish someone had just... offered to help..i did have help but i just wanted someone to hold the baby once in a while.. or let me sleep lol:)

It really did settle down even though Liam only slept 45mins at a time for 5 months due to allergies...Ethan was never that jealous and truly loves his little brother now...I included him as much as i can and tell him all the time I'm so proud of my big boy:)

so in short I wish someone had told me it's normal to feel so many different emotions and be so.. guilty towards one or the other the whole time..:) and that he wouldn't be sleeping through by 11 months..then I could have not expected that to happen lol:)
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I found it so much easier than i was expecting. I was ready for jealousy issues, and DS being rough with DD, and feeling possibly useless about not having the same 1 on 1 time with DS. But.. DS was amazing, and we didnt have 1 single issue. He just loved his little sis, and accepted her, and was an amazing help. He realised there were times i couldnt just do something with him, and was ok with that (but i made sure i made up for it when she went to bed etc.)

I found i went out a lot more when DD came along, as i needed to get out and about with my son, and do special activities or go to the library or whatever with him, so she just came along too. I learnt that it doesnt matter if things dont always go to plan, as theyll work out in the end.

I learnt from DS in many ways, and knew some habits that i didnt want to get into, or some things i wanted this time to attempt to (in my head) do right. One of these was sleep - I was a shocker with DS, and i think it was because of me that he was such hard work getting to sleep and staying asleep, as i would rock/cuddle/feed him constantly to get him to sleep. I still didnt want DD to cry to sleep, but i knew a small grizzle was ok, and hence she's a good sleeper.

One thing i wish someone had of told me - that even though you've done it all before, in so many ways its all so damn new again. I seemed to forget so much again, or worry about things. Maybe this never changes lol
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Kimnthekids we were the same not a single issue of jealousy at all. We made a big thing of Ds1 coming to see Ds2 at he hosptial, i wanted ds1 to come the next day so i looking normal and not hooked up to tubes e.t.c.

We included ds1 in everything talked about baby heaps and how he would be a big brother, read books on new babies and how they sleep a lot and feed a lot. i wanted him to understand he wasn't getting a play mate and baby would not be able to play with him for a long time. but he could help bath baby and help me chnage nappies e.t.c and lay beside him and play with toys e.t.c

I wished someone had told me how much harder it is to sleep during the day with 2. But then i got into a great routine when they both had there day sleep at he same time, magic.

you just really go with it it all falls into place
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I also felt (feel) a lot of guilt about how much less time and energy I can devote to DS1, and it pains me to see him struggling to come to term with the huge change in his life.

It also has taken me a lot longer to bond with DS2 than it did the first time around.

I am much more relaxed about parenting with number 2.

But it is great, and there is so much more love to go around! I wouldn't change it.
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That No 2 could be completely different to No1. Obvious you think but I actually expected No 2 to look like No1 did when he was born and he was TOTALLY different!

I agree with the feeling of guilt at changing No1s life forever. I'm already having that thought about making No2 a "middle child"
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This is my first, and BabyDaddy's (we're close friends) second, and his daughter, who will be 5, is so excited, she wants to go shopping with me to buy it clothes (especially skirts - someone is hoping for a sister) and she only lives with him part-time, so I'm being positive that jealousy won't be a big issue once this one comes along, but then again, I can always dream.

Wow, long sentence.

It's quite cool that I get to see her experience her first sibling, but I also get to experience first baby.
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i also had the 'how will i love no.2 as much as no.1' followed closely by, what if i love one more than the other (either way round!) but luckily neither happened. kids are sooo diff that there are always things that make you love them more, and want to scream too!!
we were a bit worried about the jealousy thing, but it wasn't too bad. biggest thing was how hard it was trying to look after 2 in the first couple of weeks when you are tired 9with just 1 you can kind of live in a little bubble! but no such luck when 2 comes along!!)
also, i was more relaxed, but still stressed about stuff! and i think i enjoyed it more teh 2nd time cos i wasnt worried about doing things wrong, i just did them anyway if i wanted to!
and here we are 8 weeks away from no.3, and still i worry about all these things all over again!!
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One thing I do suggest if possible is when your older child comes to see you and baby for the first time, have someone else there to hold baby so that when your first comes in he/she can give you a cuddle straight away and not have to worry cos mummy is holding someone else, let your older child look at the baby etc but if they are not interested, don't push it, just make sure they know you are interested in them





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Awwwwwwwww so many of these are so nice.

I'm not sure what my biggest worries are there are just lots of them, I find it hard to imagine as we are having another boy how he will be different from DS but I know he will be, that two brothers can be as different as chalk and cheese but its hard to imagine.

I do worry about the love thing and I guess I worry about DS feeling less loved but DH and I are trying to plan things so we both get time alone with DS when DS2 comes along.

I also worry a bit about me, when DS was born it definately wasn't my happiest time, and looking back I know I struggled emotionally for a few months  but i'm hoping that won't happen so much or perhaps having DS around will help.

 


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Totally agree with thekelly - best thing I did was to have someone holding DD2 when DD1 came to visit for the first time... Also I had gone to the $2 shop and got her some presents from DD2 - just little things but she totally appreciated it ...

Also to include the older sibling as much as they want to be (even if it terrifies you), my DD1 loves helping me out and I have always encouraged it, especially loves getting nappies and clothes for me.... I also say things to DD2 like, 'isn't DD1 so helpful and what a good girl' in DD1's earshot...

So far so good we haven't had any jealousy and no hitting etc...

The hardest part was the feeding in the early days DD1 got a bit annoyed about that, especially because it takes so long at first... I used to set up a snack or a game etc for her that we could play together (amazing what you can do with one hand), and talk about what we would get to do afterward, like going to the park etc...
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