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    Posted: 20 April 2010 at 9:42am
My BIL's girlfriend is having her baby soon (about a month).

We had both gotten pregnant around the same time, SIL ( i'll call her SIL because it's easier) hadn't realised she was pregnant as they had only been together for a few weeks before she fell pregnant, a week later I also found I was 6 weeks pregnant. While they were deciding weather to keep the baby or not.. we were over the moon as we were planning on trying the following month anyway.
She has had a very straight forward pregnancy with no problems and not even morning sickness, mine was not. I won't go into detail as I banged on about it in previous posts, so you've probably had enough
I haven't being able to face her yet as I haven't been coping well emotionally. I was hoping to get pregnant straight away too but I've had compications after the Miscarriage and D&C's and the doctors have told me I have to wait.

I'm feeling so jealous! It's eating me up.
I feel it just not fair as they didn't even want the baby.

I find myself having horrible nasty thoughts, I'm not a nasty person but I can't help it.

I want to be happy for her... But I'm not!

Has anybody been through something like this?
How did you cope?
And how did you cope when the baby was born?

Everyone just tells be not to worry about it and that I'll have a baby soon enough.. but it's not that easy.

And with all of the complications its up in the air as to weather I will or not... so those comments make it worse.

Sorry for the long post!


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i have never been thur this but just want to send you a big hug
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I personally think you should go and get some counselling, you dont seem to be working through it on your own, so some professional help might help you plan ways to address

A) your feelings
B) how you are going to cope when the baby arrives.
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Originally posted by Jacindarella Jacindarella wrote:


Everyone just tells be not to worry about it and that I'll have a baby soon enough.. but it's not that easy.

 

That reminds me of the depression ad on TV when John Kirwan says he spoke to a mate about it and was told to "harden up".

You have had some pretty serious trauma and I think you need to talk to someone about it.  If you are emplopyed your workplace may have EAP, if so definitely make the most of it.  Otherwise there are plenty of community groups that offer free counselling (check with your citizens advice bureau) or you could speak to your doctor about being referred to a phsycologist.  PTSD is very serious and considering what you've been through it wouldn't be surprising if you are suffering from a form of it.  If nothing else it will help to talk through your issues and discuss different coping mechanisms.

I expect your brother and SIL do want and love their baby even if it was not what they wanted at the time but I understand why you are feeling jealous and resentful towards them.

Please get help.  There is no shame in admitting that you're not coping and need help but it would be a great shame if you missed out on being an aunty because of your overwhelming jealousy.

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Hi there,
I'm unsure of your situation as I'm knew to this forum. What is your post and I'll have a look.

I just want to say that I'm really sorry for what you're going through, and the feelings you're having are normal. They may be a bit extreme, but I doubt you're the only person that has had those thoughts and feelings before. I agree, that maybe seeking help is a good idea. Who you go to and how you go about it is up to you. Maybe a good start would be www.miscarriage.org.nz to see what services are available or even to ask for advise. But you want to overcome these feelings, so however you do this it's a good thing.

If these forums help you, then keep posting. Get all of your feelings out on here if you think it makes things better. We won't judge.

I hope you get healing soon, and although it may be a long process, I'm sure you will get there.

Thinking of you.
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Oh hun miscarriages really suck don't they? Especially if you end up with complications.

I had something of a similar situation, my partner's best friend's wife was due within days of my own pregnancy. I ended up with really bad complications as well. I still haven't seen their baby because it hurts so bad and everytime someone announces their pregnancy I feel that old twinge.

Something I found that worked for me was to have other things in my life so that my mind wasn't so consumed with 'Baby, baby now.' So I did a cake decorating class. Now this probably sounds quite corny, but the class gave me something to look forward to each week. I sometimes had to drag myself there, but I ended up enjoying it once I got there. The substance might be different for you, it might be a holiday or learning a new sport. But perhaps look at this enforced time out from procreation as a chance to do something FOR YOU. Because once you get pregnant and have kiddies you are going to find that you have other priorities.

I really second the idea of getting some counselling. Go talk to your GP especially if you have other symptoms like tiredness, weight gain etc. Many women probably end up with a form of depression after m/c and suffer unnecessairly.
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Hi Jacindarella

It's a tough situation. The issue of planned/unplanned is in some ways irrelevant - I think inevitably it's hard watching someone go through a successful pregnancy in line with your own unsuccessful pregnancy. It brings the randomness of your pain into focus every time.

I agree it's terrible when people glibly say "oh you'll get a baby soon" when the FACT is that is not certain. Some people DON'T and that's part of the grief/anxiety of having a miscarriage when you haven't had a baby - you don't know if your body is able.

Counselling could be helpful, as others have said. I have heard very good things about one person's experience of seeing a grief counsellor who specialised in miscarriage, and kellyd's suggestion of the miscarriage site sounds like a good place to start. I found it helpful to think of my miscarriage as a really important journey that I was going through, just as important and formative as pregnancy and mothering. It was 5 months from when I found out my baby was dead to finding out I was pregnant again. In retrospect it's not that long, and I think for onlookers it's not that long either, but 5 months of wondering what the future holds takes a big toll.

I also found it helpful not to think comparatively, as two of my SILs got pregnant just after my mc. It's your grief and your experience - your SIL will have her own griefs and experiences to deal with in life.

It is hard. And everyone chatting here knows that and hopes the best for you!!
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Thank you ladies.

So it seems these are not normal feelings I am having?

I am suffering from Depression and have been seeing a Naturopath to sort that out..which I thought was starting to help. But as my Due date and SIL due date comes closer, it's getting harder.

I asked my doctor about councelling but she told me there was none available for my situation. I will ring Miscarriage support and see if they can help.
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Originally posted by Jacindarella Jacindarella wrote:

Thank you ladies.

So it seems these are not normal feelings I am having?



I don't think its the actual feelings we think are "abnormal" but more the depth of those feelings and the time you have been feeling like this that is the worry.

And .. it wouldnt hurt to talk to someone, so definately give them a call and see what they can do for you.
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Originally posted by Jacindarella Jacindarella wrote:


I asked my doctor about councelling but she told me there was none available for my situation. I will ring Miscarriage support and see if they can help.

 

Gosh that wasn't helpful was it!  There may not be counsellers that deal with only the specific issues you are facing but there will be counsellors that can help you work through your feelings.

As LF said it's not that what you're feeling is abnormal, it's just that it's clearly affecting you so deeply and overflowing into different aspects of your life and negatively affecting familial relationships (just reading between the lines here).  So be assured that you're not strange or out of line to be feeling these things but you can get help.

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Your post was pretty much me, including the complications that I was told I had to wait until I tried again. I ignored that advice (probably stupidly), but as it happened it was 18 months before I fell pregnant again anyway. And I completely had those feeling of how unfair it all. I'd been trying for years and done everything right and yet had still lost 2, but other people around me fell pregnant straight away, accidentally or were smoking/drinking etc, etc. I had to pretend to be happy for close friends, one who had her daughter on my first due date. No matter how illogical or normally not me these feelings were I still had them. I still feel a little like that even now that when I hear friends are pregnant again, even although I now have my little girl. Hard to say what's "normal". Miscarriage is so personal. But I agree with the others. Try to find someone you can talk to to work through things because letting those sorts of feelings fester is a bad idea.

Big hugs honey. It completely sucks.
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I've been ringing Miscarriage support all afternoon.
I get a message saying they're busy.
I'll keep trying though.

I think I needed a kick up the bum to get some help!
I just kept thinking that it would get better.. but it's obviously not going away on its own!

And thanks for reminding me that I play a part in the family also.. I don't have alot of support so I had just been trying to get myself through each day. I hadn't really thought about that side of things! I've been un-intentionally selfish.

So I've got about a month to get myself sorted so I can turn up to the hospital with a big bunch of flowers and a smile on my face!
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Originally posted by MrsMojo MrsMojo wrote:

Originally posted by Jacindarella Jacindarella wrote:


I asked my doctor about councelling but she told me there was none available for my situation. I will ring Miscarriage support and see if they can help.


 


Gosh that wasn't helpful was it!  There may not be counsellers that deal with only the specific issues you are facing but there will be counsellors that can help you work through your feelings.


As LF said it's not that what you're feeling is abnormal, it's just that it's clearly affecting you so deeply and overflowing into different aspects of your life and negatively affecting familial relationships (just reading between the lines here).  So be assured that you're not strange or out of line to be feeling these things but you can get help.



My situation being, in her words - "only a miscarriage"

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Originally posted by Jacindarella Jacindarella wrote:



My situation being, in her words - "only a miscarriage"



I'm absolutely stunned. I have a fairly low opinion of GP's anyway but this is still appalling.

I hope you can find the strength to be the doting aunt and that your turn comes soon.
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 You're kidding?! Gosh the things I'd love to say in response to that

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Hey Jacinderella,
So sorry to hear about your situation, especially the terrible treatment u have been getting from drs etc, hope u find someone who can help soon :)
going through a similar thing, justhad 2 consecutive miscarriages, and my husbands sister has just had her baby (which was due 4weeks before 0ne of ours) now his other sister is preg too and has been going on and on about it from th min she found out. (I know she has every right to be excited, but its so hard hearing every little detail

Anyway, hope u find some help/support soon, and all the best xx
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Find yourself another GP. If you are in Auckland, I can recommend you a good albeit pricey one.
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Hi Lemongirl,
I am in Auckland and would love a recommendation! I have been keeping an ear out for a good doctor.

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Hi again Jacinderalla,

firstly, I just want to say how angry I am with your GP. What a thoughtless thing to say. Is your GP a male? If so, find a female GP. If it's a female, I would have to say she's a heartless cow who has never been through this type of thing. I went to my GP after my M/C to get my hormone levels tested, and she was awesome. She had been through 4 M/C and knew what I was going through. She was so supported and so sad for me, and that's the type of GP you need. Unfortunately I'm in Hamilton so there's not point recommeding her. I also went to one of the nurses just to get a copy of some unrelated results and she must've read my history because she also was really kind and supportive. It sux that you have to work hard to find someone who will help you, but it will be worth it in the end. Find a GP who a) gives a sh*t and b) who is going to WANT to help you. Isn't that what they're supposed to do anyway??? I just don't get it.

I also have to agree that keeping yourself busy is a great distraction. I sell both Tupperware and Prenzel for a bit of spare cash and something for me to do. I had a Tupperware party the night after my miscarriage and although I wasn't really feeling up to it, I went and had a great time and it was excellent to go back to "before", even if it was just a few hours. The mind distraction is the best thing to help the healing process. My main concern during the party was that I was going to bleed too much and have to leave suddenly! But all was good and it was good getting out.

Keep trying the miscarriage support number. They work from home and get no government funding - it's just people like us running it - so they probably have trouble answering the phone sometimes. But I'm sure they will really be able to put you onto somebody. Even browse their website for other links or useful people etc.

Keep us posted on how things are going for you.

Healing will happen for you.

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Hi Kellyd,

The doctor was female, she was my second doctor after my miscarrige, the first was a male and he said something very insensitive the day I found I had lost the baby.. so I found another doctor and she was just as bad!
Some people just shouldn't be doctors!

I'm not very happy with doctors at the moment.. I'm sick of all the "bandaid" doctors around too , theres not many that want to get to the bottom of things!

I'm still trying to get through to Miscarriage support.

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