operation "Take back the power" support
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Topic: operation "Take back the power" support
Posted By: fattartsrock
Subject: operation "Take back the power" support
Date Posted: 08 November 2006 at 2:20pm
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Thought I might start a thread for those of us starting, or dragging heels about starting Operation "Take back the power"...
I started sunday night, I am sooooooo sick of getting up to Jacob 2 or 3 times a night, and him demanding a bottle. I know it is just a habit, and he proved this to me when I went in to him about 10pm sunday night, gave him a cuddle, and offered him a drink of water in his bottle, instead of a sippy cup (tricking him). He took a couple of sips and said "No, No, Bottle!" and I said to him, "no, Jacob this is your bottle and this is all you are getting" The lil bugger lay right down and went back to sleep, no worries! (usually screams house down if I offer sippy cup..)woke once more, and got he same deal... no worries. Did the same monday night, only woke once, and last night stirred, called out, but went back to sleep instead of crying out! I must admit to using some "mothers little helper" (phenergan) but will try it tonight without.... Fingers crossed! ------------- The Honest Un PC Parent of 2, usually stuck in the naughty corner! :P |
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Posted By: my2angels
Date Posted: 08 November 2006 at 3:13pm
| good luck. Im trying to get Kobe off his night time bottle, he wont sleep at home without a bottle, sometimes it takes 2 or 3 to get him to sleep and if he doesnt get one he screams and screams till he throws up everywhere and i have to change him and the bed. Thing is he doesnt have a bottle ever at preschool, will just go straight to sleep the little bugger. |
Posted By: nikkitheknitter
Date Posted: 08 November 2006 at 4:47pm
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I'm in the process of another Operation (version 10?!?)
This one is dragging itself out and hasn't worked with the usual 3 day rule as we have been away etc. I think I am getting the coming out of the room at bed time thing sorted and have dragged Han's bedtime back to (no later than) 7.30 whereas before it was around 8pm. I think she was getting overtired at that stage and that's why she was such a terror to get to sleep. Also implementing Operation 'Get out of my bed', but that ones a bit harder to be consistent on as the little monkey creeps into my bed. Providing I have early(ish) nights than I am able to wake and take her back straight away but as soon as I am tired I do the old - I'll just rest my eyes for a second... snore snore snore. Anyway... tonight is a new night! I am completely resolved to get her out of my bed. (If anyone sees me on here past 10.30pm, I'd appreciate a telling off via post or PM.  )
Good luck with the operations tough mummies! You can do it - You are the one with the power! |
Posted By: caraMel
Date Posted: 08 November 2006 at 5:12pm
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Good luck guys!
Its so hard to be consistant when its the middle of the night and you know that giving in will give you sleep, but so worth it in the long run. We're embarking on operation 'eat your dinner!' shortly. Just need to tweak the plans a little so that Mummy and Daddy both know the rules. I'm feeling very apprehensive about it, but its gotten past ridiculous, how little she'll eat! keep us posted on your progress please, I need the inspiration! ------------- Mel, Mummy to E: 6, B: 4 and: 
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Posted By: fattartsrock
Date Posted: 08 November 2006 at 8:53pm
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I knew there were a few of us out there... We can all support each other in taking back the power in the house...Now, if it was only as easy to do with the dog... ------------- The Honest Un PC Parent of 2, usually stuck in the naughty corner! :P |
Posted By: busymum
Date Posted: 08 November 2006 at 9:19pm
Mel, have you tried dishing up one mouthful of meat, potatoes, peas (whatever) and if she finishes all of that she can have more? Depends how fussy vs stubborn she is of course 
Nikki I was wondering if you can shut/lock your door so she can't open it? My difficulty with Hannah at the moment is that she'll wake up between 1 and 4am and come to me because she can't find her doll - who has managed to get under the covers somewhere around her feet. Seems to me the only solution is to teach her how to find her doll? Suggestions anyone? If the 1 yo can sleep through the night, then so can the 2yo and at the moment I sure need a good night's sleep! -------------  |
Posted By: newmum
Date Posted: 09 November 2006 at 8:32am
POWER TO THE MUM'S!!!!!   Good luck ladies!! ------------- http://lilypie.com"> 
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Posted By: Maya
Date Posted: 09 November 2006 at 10:46am
OK, my mission is to take back the bedtime power. I got slack and have been putting Maya to bed after Shorty St coz she likes watching it (yes I know that in itself is a shocker  ) but the last few nights she has dragged bedtime out till after 8.30pm, which means I get bugger all time to myself before the babies are up to be fed.
So tonight she will be in bed before the final credits on Shorty... ------------- Maya Grace (28/02/03)
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Posted By: Medicina
Date Posted: 09 November 2006 at 11:57am
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For Maya: video Shorty and edit out adds, play at 6.30pm, kid in bed by 7pm no worries and you all save time!
For busymum: safe-t-sleep on doll! My issue is toddler to rough with baby sis, despite being to time-out lots and 'knowing' he's not being gentle. Would love to be able to have them in the lounge and be able to move around house without fear of damaged children resulting (dreams are free!) any suggestions? |
Posted By: mummy_becks
Date Posted: 09 November 2006 at 12:16pm
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I don't know how I did it but Andrew was a breeze coming off the bottle. I did have daycares help with them stopping the bottle during the day which just lead to the one at night going. GOOD LUCK. Annie - try the we have to put them away now for the new bubba. I have heard of people using that with dummies to gett he older child off the dummy before the 2nd on comes along. My operation is to get one 2 and 1/2 year old to stay by my side when we are out shopping. Today he ran out of pumpkin patch twice out onto the footpath and down to the crossing (those in Palmy know the one i'm talking about by the entrance to the plaza). I was so angry and I didn't get to finish my shopping, I did lose it but not till we were in the car, when I rang DH in tears getting him home and him to sort Andrew out as I was sure I would lose it again with him. 2 hours later he has calmed down - DH has just gone back to work and is listening to me again, but i'm saving my shopping trips now to when he is at daycare. ------------- I was a puree feeder, forward facing, cot sleeping, pram pushing kind of Mum... and my kids survived! |
Posted By: Bizzy
Date Posted: 09 November 2006 at 2:39pm
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yay for taking back the power...
re the dinner thing i dont know if i would make her eat dinner... maybe just start with making her stay at the table during dinner. in our house gabriel quite often wont eat dinner but i do insist he stays at the table and sometimes he eats by accident. also dont forget not to give anything else if she refuses dinner. shutting the door was the only way we had to get the message to gabriel that we were serious about bed time. if he came out he got put back in and told to stay and warned if he got out again the door would get shut and if he did it again then we would shut the door, of course that meant standing there holding it till he gave up. re not finding dollie at night i was going to suggest perhaps tying her to the cot or bedhead. jacobsmama did you manage without the phenergan? i remember when i tried to get toby to stop feeding at night. i started at 11 mths and only now is he sleeping thru... he wasnt really interested in night time booby but he did get addicted to having me standing over him rubbing his back. and mummybecks if you figure out how to make the 2yr old stay by your side in shops lets me know cause i still cant control the 3yr old from wandering. the other week in pak n save he got out into the underground carpark (and that was with my husband there too). when i think what could have happened... good luck everyone.... ------------- http://www.myfitnesspal.com/weight-loss-ticker"> 
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Posted By: james
Date Posted: 09 November 2006 at 5:24pm
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right i,m joining in here but will be starting tomorrow with get out of mybed and in your own and sleep all night !!!! i,m not looking forward to this but ihave been putting it off ------------- <a href="http://lilypie.com"><img src="http://b4.lilypie.com/nLJ5p13.png" alt="Lilypie 4th Birthday Ticker" border="0" /></a> |
Posted By: busymum
Date Posted: 09 November 2006 at 8:38pm
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This is one hot topic!
Medicina, I laughed at the safe-t-sleep - mental image was hilarious! I just found out that she's had an ear infection all week, hopefully once that goes she won't sleep so lightly, we'll see. She did sleep all through last night so here's hoping! 
I can't help much with the toddler being rough to the baby sorry, we did (lots and lots and lots of) time out until the point got across. Man, it was so frustrating. We still sometimes have episodes but this time it's over-cuddling lol. How old are your kids? Becks, how is it that 2yo's can pick the busiest intersection in the city!?! I would suggest a body harness or at least, a wrist strap. If he doesn't like it, it will at least give him incentive to "stay with mum nicely at this shop and I'll take it off at the next one" or something. Hannah is fortunately very good with outings because moving vehicles freak her out somewhat! All the best to us... ------------- |
Posted By: nikkitheknitter
Date Posted: 09 November 2006 at 9:39pm
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Busymum - Little toad can open her door (damn low, pull-down door handles), I have tried removing it but it looks like you need an engineering degree to get it off (or a screwdriver - but they were all the way in the garage! )
Last night my bloody sister put Hannah in HER bed. I'd just put monkey to bed after she'd woken up screaming because it was all dark etc and then she tried to creep into my bed when I busted her, so she threw herself on the ground and cried. My sis came out (damn well naked... strange thing to see at 1am!) and picked up Han and took her back to bed with her (as Gaz had gone out drinking for the night). I woke up in the morning and Jute asked (all indignant and stuff) "Do you know where Hannah slept last night?" I replied "Of course" and then Jute said "In MY bed! I just woke up and she was staring at me... she must have just climbed in." Mmmhmmmmm.  Damn her and her sleep walking. Altho... better her than me  If I can train Han to go to her and Gaz's bed rather than mine, then they'll be the ones who have to put her back to her own bed!
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Posted By: james
Date Posted: 10 November 2006 at 8:32am
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lol good plan nikki love it hhahahaha now today is the day power to the mummys lol am going to do the back in your bed plan but i have two questions 1-what time is a good time for a one and a half year old to go to bed at nihgt and 2-when he wakes at night what do i do just put him back own or what ------------- <a href="http://lilypie.com"><img src="http://b4.lilypie.com/nLJ5p13.png" alt="Lilypie 4th Birthday Ticker" border="0" /></a> |
Posted By: Maya
Date Posted: 10 November 2006 at 2:01pm
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Medicina - loving your idea! Now I just have to figure out how to work my video player...
Failed miserably last night. In bed at 8.20pm. Screamed about wanting to watch Nanny 911 (????  ) and I was too busy juggling babies to argue.
Hope evryone else is having more success... ------------- Maya Grace (28/02/03)
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Posted By: Bizzy
Date Posted: 10 November 2006 at 4:30pm
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maybe you could tell maya that if she doesnt get in bed when you tell her then the next night it will get earlier and she wont get to watch anything... and turning off the tv might help too - i have to do that to gabriel if he is stuck starting at it and wont move. ------------- http://www.myfitnesspal.com/weight-loss-ticker">
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Posted By: lizzle
Date Posted: 10 November 2006 at 6:55pm
| Lu, I think Jake was going to bed between 6:30 and 7 at that age. My boys have always been really early going to bed though - and really really early to rise. 5;30am - shudder. |
Posted By: busymum
Date Posted: 10 November 2006 at 7:18pm
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Briona (16mos) sleeps from 6.30 or 7pm through to 7am or a bit later. She doesn't wake in the night anymore but when she did (in recent times), it was just because she was cold and needed covers re-tucked in. I found that if I cuddled her or anything extra like that it just made it harder for her to settle down.
Back in the day when she was waking for extra feeds (which she didn't need), I would give her a quick cuddle, say it's still night time, good night, tuck her back in and walk out without looking back. Nikki - I guess you'll have to put a lock on the inside of your bedroom door or maybe the outside of Hannah's - of course you'll need to use a screwdriver for that though And seeing my sister naked?!? ------------- |
Posted By: nikkitheknitter
Date Posted: 10 November 2006 at 8:30pm
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I like the lock on my door idea. Then it doesn't just shut out Hannah, I get to escape from everyone!!!
And my sister being nakie isn't entirely unusual... just didn't expect the combination of nakieness and taking my tantruming toddler away from me at 1am! hehe As far as the operation is going... not working brilliantly. I am fulfilling my end of the bargain and putting Han back to bed whenever she comes out (gosh it's hard dragging yourself out of a nice warm bed!!) but she has figured that she can go to Gaz and Jute's bed. So she slept with them from about 3.30am. I might have to put the gate back up on their door. Damnit. My diagnosis for Han coming out of bed is that she's starting to get a bit frightened of the dark/being alone and all quiet. She hasn't just been coming to my bed lately, she's been screaming in her room until I drag my butt in there. Must get a nightlight. |
Posted By: lizzle
Date Posted: 10 November 2006 at 9:02pm
| Jake has a torch. of course, he uses it throughout the day so come night time it does squat, but might work with hannah....if you buy one, buy a million batteries though. supercheap auto have cheap ones. |
Posted By: Maya
Date Posted: 10 November 2006 at 9:56pm
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Aha! Success (of sorts!) I got her into bed by 8pm. In fact, I got all the girls into bed by 8pm and finally got to have a nice hot bath. Maya didn't go to sleep, in fact she was feral and called out for about half an hour, but at least she was in bed and I totally ignored her till Willie went in and read the riot act.
LOL Deborah - I threatened her with not being allowed to go to Gabriel's party tomorrow... ------------- Maya Grace (28/02/03)
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Lil miss:Chiara Louise Chloe (09/07/08)
Her ladyship:Rosalia Sophie Anais (18/06/12)
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Posted By: james
Date Posted: 11 November 2006 at 8:01am
well i got james to take his day nap in his bed and was sooo pround of my self butttt not his night sleep thanks to his nana feeling bad for him he ended up in my bed and of corse woke at 4am and wouldnt go back to sleep i,m sooo tried right now i could cry i have decied that he will be sleeping in his own bed tonight no matter what his nana says   well dfone emma i cant even get one child to bed let alone three ------------- <a href="http://lilypie.com"><img src="http://b4.lilypie.com/nLJ5p13.png" alt="Lilypie 4th Birthday Ticker" border="0" /></a> |
Posted By: busymum
Date Posted: 11 November 2006 at 10:36am
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You go, James' mum - your sleep is soooo important and you need to make the decisions for him, not your(?) mum. ------------- |
Posted By: nikkitheknitter
Date Posted: 11 November 2006 at 6:30pm
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Hannah slept through the night last night!!!!!!!!!!
(Complete fluke... must have been pretty damn tired.) |
Posted By: fattartsrock
Date Posted: 11 November 2006 at 7:37pm
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Woo hoo!!!!!!!! sounds like some of you have been haivng some great success!!
No me though, it all went pear shaped wed night, someone got a high temp, and was all sickly. A trip to the Dr ruled out any illness, but he has teeth on the move... thurs night awake at 1.15, 3.30 and up for day at 5.12 (gggrrr) I went phenergen free that night, as I did last night as well, and he woke at 1.15, 3.25, 4.30, I caved in then as he was hysterical and gave him some milk (nauhgty, but I was sooooooooooooo tired)He was better last night though, health wise. Tonight, phenergen free again, went down at 6.30 as he didn't really have an afternoon sleep (a half hour in pram while at a&p show nap) so fingers crossed. Will drug him up tomorrow night if tonight goes pear shaped again. I had intended doing it for about 5 nights, but didn't like the idea of druging him up if he was sick? hhhmmmm. ------------- The Honest Un PC Parent of 2, usually stuck in the naughty corner! :P |
Posted By: fattartsrock
Date Posted: 12 November 2006 at 8:43pm
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Update... rough night last night. at 12.45 and I charged in there (after leaving him to cry for 20 mins after I went in and gave him water) and told him off in a REALLY growly mum voice. I said Jacob, you are NOT getting ANY milk, so lie down and go to sleep. And, you know what, he stopped crying, looked shocked, lay down and went to sleep... (till 5.20am..) ------------- The Honest Un PC Parent of 2, usually stuck in the naughty corner! :P |
Posted By: nikkitheknitter
Date Posted: 12 November 2006 at 8:47pm
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Nice work Annie!
We had tonnes of people staying last night and when Han trotted in to my room at 2am, I moved to take her back and she threw a paddy. Out of consideration for the guests (and exhaustion) I put her in my bed and we both promptly fell asleep until 8.48am!!!! Now that's a sleep in! So yeah, back on the job tonight. I have a feeling it'll be a shocker.
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Posted By: fattartsrock
Date Posted: 12 November 2006 at 9:19pm
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oooh good luck, Nikki, you'll probably be battling your monster as I am battling mine... ------------- The Honest Un PC Parent of 2, usually stuck in the naughty corner! :P |
Posted By: Bizzy
Date Posted: 13 November 2006 at 9:38am
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yesterday my boy fell asleep at 4 and nothing i did could wake him up - so that night he wouldnt go to sleep and when he found mum and dad had gone to bed he wanted in there too - so i had a kicking wriggly boy in my bed till midnight when he eventually fell asleep.
toby on the other hand still hasnt woken up during the night since i started using a Babyok...the best thing since sliced bread in my opinion. before that he used to wake at least once a night and sometimes be awake for 2 hours at a go... ------------- http://www.myfitnesspal.com/weight-loss-ticker">
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Posted By: aimeejoy
Date Posted: 13 November 2006 at 9:40am
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Deb, how do those babyok things work? We have a safetysleep but she can get it undone still and can still stand up. Can they still roll onto their tummies, but not stand up? ------------- Aimee Hannah 22/10/05 Greer 11/02/08 |
Posted By: Bizzy
Date Posted: 13 November 2006 at 9:46am
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yep - toby always sleeps on his tum. they can sit up in them and roll over just not stand up. i have even found he sleeps longer in the day now - nearly 2.5 hrs yesterday - and isnt waking up as grumpy as he used to. ------------- http://www.myfitnesspal.com/weight-loss-ticker">
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Posted By: nikkitheknitter
Date Posted: 13 November 2006 at 10:09am
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Wow! Sounds like a great invention.
Han had a suprisingly good night last night. She woke at some stage and was calling out to me (and by some freak of nature, I actually woke up!) so I went in and resettled her, left her door open, then returned to my bed... fully expecting the little pitter patter of toddly feet coming to snuggle in with me. Didn't happen! (Well, until 6.30am but I can handle that!) Yay! I'm going to set up the baby monitor again so I can properly wake up if she is stuck in her room again. |
Posted By: fattartsrock
Date Posted: 13 November 2006 at 3:14pm
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Jake woke 3 times last night, got the growly mum three times as well... On the plus side, we are winning the power battle with the dog. We got her a new basket and a very furry blankie, and shut her in the lounge. I didn't hear any whining until 6.15am, she didn't even stir when i went into the room twice during the night to get a drink of water... ------------- The Honest Un PC Parent of 2, usually stuck in the naughty corner! :P |
Posted By: nikkitheknitter
Date Posted: 13 November 2006 at 3:30pm
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Nice! Atleast you have one under control I couldn't do two simultaneously... actually, can barely do one! She seems to be training herself this time. (Wait until tomorrow when I am eating my words )
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Posted By: fattartsrock
Date Posted: 22 November 2006 at 2:45pm
Jake has been sleeping till AT LEAST 5am, usually 6am since my last post... WOO HOO. AND the dog has stayed in her new basket. Now, if only I didn't have to get up 400 times a night to pee....
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Posted By: fattartsrock
Date Posted: 22 November 2006 at 2:46pm
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Everyone loves Tui's basket/blankie, ESPECIALLY Jake, who has been growled at several times by the dog... ------------- The Honest Un PC Parent of 2, usually stuck in the naughty corner! :P |
Posted By: nikkitheknitter
Date Posted: 22 November 2006 at 2:48pm
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Cuuuuuute!
I've been sleeping through Hannah-arrivals again. So she's been sleeping with me.
I may have had a break through last night. I was so grumpy and at my wits end that I couldn't bring myself to read Hannah a bed time story. I just plonked her in bed, turned off the light, gave her a kiss and shut the door. (And cried.) She went to sleep much quicker than she has in AGES! I wonder if I've been dragging her bedtime routine out too long? The little toad has got me reading atleast 2 books and singing atleast 2 songs, often 3. How did this happen??? I swear it used to be 1 book then lights out and sleep. Evil child. And pushover of a mother. |
Posted By: fattartsrock
Date Posted: 22 November 2006 at 2:55pm
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sounds like you are onto something there, Nikki (or hannah is, devious child...) ------------- The Honest Un PC Parent of 2, usually stuck in the naughty corner! :P |
Posted By: ellabellame
Date Posted: 23 November 2006 at 8:47am
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oh what a great thread! i've decided that now that mikey is 1 it's time for him to stop waking up for a feed at least 5 times a night. if i don't feed him he just screams and screams until i give in.
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Posted By: nikkitheknitter
Date Posted: 23 November 2006 at 9:29am
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Don't give in? hehehe
Right, real advice. Make sure he has had a decent feed before bed and then if he wakes during the night, offer water instead. He'll soon learn that he won't get milk by screaming! It will be super hard for the first 3 days, but as a general rule, they seem to fall into line after that. Good luck! Be strong!
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Posted By: ellabellame
Date Posted: 23 November 2006 at 10:14am
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thanks nikki, i'll give it a try tonight. i've also started giving him a feed about 1/2 an hour before putting him down for his day sleeps to try and break the sleep/feed association. it worked ok actually, he screamed this morning for about 1 minute and then went to sleep, we'll see how long he sleeps for. ------------- |
Posted By: busymum
Date Posted: 23 November 2006 at 12:37pm
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Another thing you could try - I did this with an 8mo so slightly different - is give him a quick cuddle, don't say a word, then tuck him back in and go out. Keep it quick and he'll be bored of that in no time.
I'm having success with my Hannah. She comes into my room asking for help to find her doll and I've had to be really firm and say "Hannah, I'm too tired to get up. You'll need to go back to bed and we'll find her in the morning." Oh it's so tough but she's old enough. Anyway, it's happened a lot less in the last two weeks - I think only 4 occasions? - and every single time she has ended up finding her doll when she went back. Yay for that! ------------- |
Posted By: ellabellame
Date Posted: 23 November 2006 at 1:52pm
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yay for success!!! it makes me feel a bit more confident that this might actually work, i mean if it worked for other mums, why not me? ------------- |
Posted By: nikkitheknitter
Date Posted: 23 November 2006 at 2:06pm
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You know what.. that has encouraged me too!
I'm gonna start making Hannah walk herself back to bed.
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Posted By: ellabellame
Date Posted: 23 November 2006 at 2:15pm
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yay! mikey went down for his afternoon nap without a feed first and only cried for about a minute again. this i can handle!
now we just have to see how it goes when he wakes up in the middle of the night and i don't feed him, i have a feeling there's going to be some major hissy fits. (maybe not just from him  ) ------------- |
Posted By: nikkitheknitter
Date Posted: 23 November 2006 at 2:16pm
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hehe As long as you are prepared for the hard road.
I just remembered that I got Han to drink milk from a straw today!! Yay! Might phase out the bottle
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Posted By: ellabellame
Date Posted: 23 November 2006 at 2:25pm
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yay for hannah. lol, every time i try mikey with the straw he won't even let me put it in his mouth, he just starts running away (yes running everyone, my baby can walk now!!).
the only way he'll take any liquid is from his feeds or every now and again from his sippy cup. stubborn wee fella. ------------- |
Posted By: nikkitheknitter
Date Posted: 23 November 2006 at 2:44pm
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Admittedly, the straw she used was on of those disgusting flavoured milk straws - got one free in my toddler pack from www.reachme.co.nz - I drank most of it (and nearly died from sugar overload) and then she used it after that, so could still taste the strawberry(/sugar).
But now I know that she doesn't have a problem with the consistency of milk through a straw (she used to gag at it) there is no getting out of it!
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Posted By: ellabellame
Date Posted: 23 November 2006 at 3:07pm
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i got one of those in my pack, i got a banana flavoured one. there is no way i'd give that to mikey, i couldn't even handle the whole thing, it was so sickly! ------------- |
Posted By: busymum
Date Posted: 24 November 2006 at 8:10pm
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Have a pre-Christmas party at your house Nikki and everyone has to drink with straws It'll be fun so she'll join in! ------------- |