Pregnant with 2nd
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Topic: Pregnant with 2nd
Posted By: LivMcD
Subject: Pregnant with 2nd
Date Posted: 13 September 2011 at 11:14am
Hey there, I am pregnant with my second (DD is 13 months old). Im having real issues with figuring out what I need to buy/get for this one. Eg. pram (only a singe and cant attach toddler seat very easily), and what else do I need??? Im pretty sure we have anything but bby brain is not helping me!
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Posted By: fallen
Date Posted: 13 September 2011 at 1:11pm
Congratulations!
Another car seat? What are you planning on doing re sleeping arrangements? Our youngest are 20 months apart so we've got two cots. We haven't been game enough to move Sebastian to a big bed yet.
Apart from girls clothes which we were given I think thats all we needed for the new baby.
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Posted By: JessDub
Date Posted: 13 September 2011 at 3:45pm
Car seat, clothes and a place to sleep. Everything else you can get after baby arrives as you need it. We didn't get a double buggy for no 2 and I'm glad as we don't have the need for one (yet, if at all).
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Posted By: LivMcD
Date Posted: 13 September 2011 at 4:28pm
Yeah my issue with the pram is DD will only be 22 months old so just need to figure out whether she'll still need one?
as for sleeping we have gotten DD her big girls bed and we going to give it to her for christmas, it'll be summer so I firgure if she ends up sleeping on the floor (lol) its not going to be a huge issue.
Probably need to get more re-usable nappies as well!
Thanks for the help girls!
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Posted By: Raspberryjam
Date Posted: 13 September 2011 at 10:41pm
I have a double for my two - 2 years and 2 months apart - its awesome to go for a walk and if it werent side by side it would be better for shopping but I dont often take them both anyway
I think the thing is think 6 to 12 months after baby is born - will your big girl be happy to walk then
Knowing what I know now - I would invest in a manduca for baby and keep the buggy for the big one - once Baby is big enough - a double stroller is super handy for walks etc and not so expensive or bulky - but by then you may have seen your daughter is happy to walk everywhere
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Posted By: LivMcD
Date Posted: 14 September 2011 at 6:37am
what is a manduca? is it a sling? i have a front pack that ill probably use alot for #2
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Posted By: E&L+1
Date Posted: 14 September 2011 at 7:22am
A manduca is a soft structured carrier that you could use with both baby and toddler.
#2 is arriving very soon for us. DD isn't in a bed and we have decided to wait until after bubs is born to look at a second cot. We'll have a few months while bubs is in the .oses basket. Other than that we have brought a car seat, more mcns, some clothes, another mirror for the car. We already have a doubles kit for our pram and I have a manduca.
Anything else can wait until we know for sure we'll need it.
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Posted By: MamaT
Date Posted: 14 September 2011 at 10:18am
The only thing we are needing to purchase this time around is a new carseat, we'll hire a capsule for the first 6 months this time.
I'm not going to worry about a doubles kit or anything for the pram, I will wear the baby when out and about and have DS walking or in the pram.
There will be 2yrs, 2mths between our two, and DS has been In a bed since 15 months so don't have to worry about beds or anything either.
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Posted By: LivMcD
Date Posted: 14 September 2011 at 1:29pm
Thanks Mama T, how'd you wee man go at being in a bed, because we're putting DD in one at xmas (she'll be 17 months), and Im a little nervous about how she'll go, but Id rather do this, there is no way Im going to fork out for another cot lol
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Posted By: MamaT
Date Posted: 14 September 2011 at 6:58pm
He was awesome, I have him in a sleeping bag and that seems to make him think he can't get out of bed with it on, so always waits for me.
We do have him in a 3/4 bed (between and king single and double) which means he can't accidently roll out, but I can also hop in and spend the night with him. He isn't much of a mover anyway though
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Posted By: lostAmber
Date Posted: 15 September 2011 at 10:08am
I'm another one who is going to put the new baby in the manduca and have DD remain in the stroller. It's not worth buying the toddler seat for her as she will probably be too heavy for it by the time baby #2 comes.
I am not buying anything for this baby, we have a capsule from the first baby that we will use again, so a second carseat doesn't need to be purchased for a while. We also have a moses basket and a bassinet, and everything else a newborn needs.
This is a very stress free pregnancy indeed. No spending required woohoo!
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Posted By: Cinderella
Date Posted: 15 September 2011 at 11:12am
I had to put my oldest in a bed at 15 months because he could climb out of his cot. I used a safety sleep to keep him in. But I did have to use several safety pins and stap him in tight lol. He was a master at getting out if it. But I figured it was closer to the ground than his cot.
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Posted By: Harley
Date Posted: 15 September 2011 at 4:26pm
A bigger car and a chest freezer are the only things on my list this time round!
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Posted By: LivMcD
Date Posted: 15 September 2011 at 7:25pm
My DD would never use a safety sleep she'd throw a fit! Shes a bit like me and moves alot in bed lol
We should be good re car, I only have a sedan but we dont need to fit anything else in, just another baby! As for the chest freezer, yah already have one!
I think we pretty much sorted, just need to find out the sex, so I can figure out whether we need to get rid of the girls clothes and replace them with boys clothes!
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Posted By: EvaB
Date Posted: 16 September 2011 at 12:10pm
The things that I think I need to replace are baby towels, bibs, face cloths, swaddling muslins, things that have had a bit of use and a bit manky looking now. Also bottles & teats in various sizes, if required, oh and a some of the cot sheets are a bit worn and won't last another baby, so will replace some of those.
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Posted By: TheKelly
Date Posted: 16 September 2011 at 1:30pm
I have 21months between mine,we bought another cot,(older baby was in it for at least 3months when his sister arrived)
And we got a Phil and Teds Dash with the toddler seat,which we still use,and another carseat...that was it though (apart from things like flannels,bottles etc if they needed replacing )
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Posted By: monkey33
Date Posted: 16 September 2011 at 8:18pm
We are needing to buy:
Replacement bibs, facecloths, miracle blankets & sleeping bag (will use DS' as the backup)
Carseat once bubs has outgrown the capsule
Manduca & will keep single pram
New playgym as the last one I got was really cheap and kind of fell apart - going for a wooden mocka one this time
Clothes! New bubba is going to be born in winter (and don't know if same sex) and DS is a summer baby.
Oh and might buy a bumbo or mobile feeding chair this time around, would have made life much easier with DS when feeding him out
Drawers, bookcase & single bed for DS (new bubba will have cot & DS' room furniture)
Sounds like a bit, but nowhere what it was like the first time around!
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Posted By: TheKelly
Date Posted: 17 September 2011 at 4:23pm
I have a moby wrap that I got with Tyler and I had all these notions of only needing that when the baby came along.
So glad I got a double buggy kit,I NEVER use my Moby now,in fact I need to sell it,everytime I tried to put it on,Ty would get jealous of the baby being so close to me and would want me to pick him up,in the end,having them both in the buggy was a god send.
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Posted By: Mama2two
Date Posted: 18 September 2011 at 7:01am
I have to agree with kelly. I had thoughts of not bothering with a double pram and just using a sling, but I am so glad I didn't! In the end it was so much easier to have both kids in the buggy, especially with having a busy toddler running around. We only used the sling when we couldn't use the buggy for some reason - ie. farm parks, bush walks etc. I had a funny feeling that my daughter would want to be in a buggy if the baby was and was so right. We ended up with an inline P&T and are still using it for both kids now
Oh and apart from the double buggy, I only really bought a sling, car seat (decided to upgrade my daughters to the toddler seat to save expense down the track) and some new nappies, clothes since we had a boy second time around. We did the same as you are intending and put our daughter into a bed with no hassles at just over 18 months. I just put a side rail up and kept her in her sleeping bag :). We bought drawers from the second hand shop and gave them a new coat of paint too - cost us a whole $20 including paint :) It all seemed like next to nothing compared to getting ready for my daughter to come
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Posted By: Emmi_
Date Posted: 18 September 2011 at 3:16pm
There will be 18/19 months between my two, and the only things we need is:
a bed (for DD, will move her into it when bubs is looking to out grow the bassinet (DD was in it till 6+ months)
clothes if this one is a boy (although we have more than enough neutral stuff to last us till 6m)
and another carseat
There is no way Im buying a double buggy JIC we will use it (I dont use the pram we have now!) and we have 2 manducas and a stretchy wrap for the early days. DD walks 9/10ths of the way everywhere at the moment, I can only see that increasing?
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Posted By: LivMcD
Date Posted: 18 September 2011 at 7:59pm
Yeah thats what Im thinking Emmi, I dont want to fork out for a new buggy, when it may only be used for 2-3 months! Plus DD hates being in the pram now, I cant see her wanting to be in there at 2 years! I can always buy one once bubby is here and I find I need it.
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Posted By: TheKelly
Date Posted: 18 September 2011 at 9:16pm
Emmi_ wrote:
There will be 18/19 months between my two, and the only things we need is:
a bed (for DD, will move her into it when bubs is looking to out grow the bassinet (DD was in it till 6+ months)
clothes if this one is a boy (although we have more than enough neutral stuff to last us till 6m)
and another carseat
There is no way Im buying a double buggy JIC we will use it (I dont use the pram we have now!) and we have 2 manducas and a stretchy wrap for the early days. DD walks 9/10ths of the way everywhere at the moment, I can only see that increasing? |
Ty walks too(he was running by the time she was born) ,but stuff trying to catch up to a running 2 year old while running with a baby strapped to you,or having the toddler have a tantrum because HE wants to be carried too been there done that,not so fun
Thats my experience though,its different for everyone,for some people it works having the carriers,others like myself,found it worked better having them in the pram.
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Posted By: TheKelly
Date Posted: 18 September 2011 at 9:17pm
oh,and our buggy has been used 6 months and counting,and when I no longer need Ty in it,it can become a single.
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Posted By: kebakat
Date Posted: 18 September 2011 at 9:32pm
Theres over 3 years between my two and I still use my pram and doubles kit and i used it daily for the first 3-4 months at least. It depends on your lifestyle. I wanted to get out and exercise. If you plan on doing that then theres no way in hell I'd wear a baby. Running with a baby attached doesn't work .. or long distance walks (where you are trying to exercise) also doesn't work.. you over heat yourself and baby and get saturated in sweat. Also going clothes shopping etc with a baby attached is dificult if you wanna try things on. Yes you can take baby off but if its anything like mine he will crawl underneath the doors of the changing room.
I do have an ergo which I use a lot. BUT i also use my pram alot. Even in summer when we went to the beach i put alex down for his sleeps in the pram which gave me the freedom to play and run around with daniel and get in the water and anyone could watch alex rather than just being stuck on me.
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Posted By: mummyofprinces
Date Posted: 18 September 2011 at 9:42pm
I have to agree... I love wearing my kiddies but jeepers heck no.
We often go out and about running errands that will have us out for several hours. Sometimes its just not practical to be wearing them!
Personally I found my double to be a godsend... I quite frankly would not have survived without it!
Another car seat was the only other thing we needed... doesnt mean I have not spent a bit too much money spoiling the other one
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Posted By: freckle
Date Posted: 19 September 2011 at 7:54am
haha well I'm the opposite to you guys, I totally intended on buying the doubles kit for our stroller but I found it so much easier to have DD3 in the Mei Tai or Moby. In fact until the last few weeks DD3 hadn't been in the stroller cos she just seemed too little lol... So going for big walks DD2 went in the stroller and DD3 was carried. The only other thing we needed immediately was the carseat.
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Posted By: pudgy
Date Posted: 19 September 2011 at 8:21am
I'm the same ad freckle. We got a double buggy, well abuggy with a toddler seat, and he hated it ! Wouldn't sleep in there and cried the whole time. Lol so I just wore him everywhere. I'm not brave enough to take the kids shopping lolbut I usedtogo for big walks for exercise wearing ds. You just have to dress appropriately and usually I'd walk to a park, let dd play, feed ds then head back.
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Posted By: Emmecat
Date Posted: 19 September 2011 at 8:42am
We have a double buggy and while I think we could have survived without it, it has been awesome for walking (for exercise I mean). Shopping etc, we use the shopping carts with double seats, and I now wear baby in the manduca and our toddler walks.
BUT when baby is newborn and you're recovering from birth and being exhausted (um cos you will be lol) , a double buggy will come in really handy. I'd be inclined to pick up one on TM in good 2nd hand nick and then flick it on once you're done. You may well only use it for 6 months but I tell ya, 6 months with 2 is A LOT different and more tiring than 6 months with 1!!!
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Posted By: fattartsrock
Date Posted: 19 September 2011 at 11:10am
Yeah.... it's fantastic to have firm ideas about what you are going to do, sure beats fly by the crotch of your undies but in my experience (public health) high (and often unrealistic) expectations not only of yourself but of your children too often leads to anxiety, depression, anger and all those other nasty roadblocks. Stating them so firmly also means it's much much harder to (and then less likely that you will) ask for help because you feel like a "failure".
2 kids is about a billion times harder than 1...TAke it from those of us who have been there, done that and bought the T Shirt...(and, yes, I "wore" my #2 but it was much much easier to use the double if we were out more than half an hour....show me a toddler who does'nt run off or who is happy to walk holding your hand for more than half an hour and I'll give you the winning lotto numbers!)
I'm not saying you can't or won't, I'm just saying be gentle on yourself and your children.
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Posted By: TheKelly
Date Posted: 19 September 2011 at 11:11am
bottom line,kids...are dicks.
And you never know what will actually work until you are in the situation cos you might have it planned one way,but kids can come around and do the complete opposite....They're evil like that.
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Posted By: mummyofprinces
Date Posted: 19 September 2011 at 11:14am
^^ What she said... walking around is one thing, if you want to walk/run to loose baby weigth then baby wearing isnt ideal.
I guess we all have different day to day lives so we all have different needs.
I love heading out the mall on a rainy day, we can be there all day. We go for coffee, wander around and window shop, play in the indoor play areas, have some lunch, do more window shopping, more playing the indoor play areas... No way no how could I do that without a double.. Well I could now, nearly a year on but I am still suffering with pain in my scar so carrying either of my kids (who roughly weigh the same) after a few hours starts to hurt.
Also I found that with my closer gap, chances are they would both want to nap when we were out... I not quite mastered tandem wearing for long periods lol
I think grabbing a second double of tm is a great idea... you will likely get back what you paid for it and then you are covered.
I guess if you dont go out and about for long periods and you dont plan on exercising during the day by walking/running then you most likely wont need a double...
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Posted By: mummyofprinces
Date Posted: 19 September 2011 at 11:15am
Oh and I guess I like be over prepared rather than underprepared...
Going from 1-2 is big change... I think it doesnt hurt to plan that things wont go the way you envision them...
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Posted By: fattartsrock
Date Posted: 19 September 2011 at 11:19am
fattartsrock wrote:
Yeah.... it's fantastic to have firm ideas about what you are going to do, sure beats fly by the crotch of your undies but in my experience (public health) high (and often unrealistic) expectations not only of yourself but of your children too often leads to anxiety, depression, anger and all those other nasty roadblocks. Stating them so firmly also means it's much much harder to (and then less likely that you will) ask for help because you feel like a "failure".
2 kids is about a billion times harder than 1...TAke it from those of us who have been there, done that and bought the T Shirt...(and, yes, I "wore" my #2 but it was much much easier to use the double if we were out more than half an hour....show me a toddler who does'nt run off or who is happy to walk holding your hand for more than half an hour and I'll give you the winning lotto numbers!)
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ETA I have 20 months between my two. Spent the first 6 months or so in some kind of sleep deprived insanity mode, lol.
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Posted By: bookwyrm
Date Posted: 19 September 2011 at 12:32pm
I will have a four year gap between mine when our second is born in February. A pram is really out of the question for DS aged 4. I do have a baby bjorn, but may look into a slip / wrap while bubs is tiny. I will invest in a new pram as our old one has been lent out that many times that its a bit screwy now.
My son still wants to be carried everywhere, it is a nightmare. We are just making a stand and saying no, and hope to hell he is a bit better by February.
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Posted By: T_Rex
Date Posted: 19 September 2011 at 1:06pm
bookwyrm you'll find you'll get firmer about saying "no, walk" and he'll get more agreable about doing it as you get a bigger and bigger bump so the carrying thing gets more uncomfy for both of you
I'm amused by quite how much of a debate this has become. For what it's worth, I'm planning a stretchy wrap for bub on my front and the manduca for DD on my back but that's mostly on the basis that DD has hated the pram her whole life. If this one loves it, I might wear DD and put bub in the pram, or seeing as DD is much better in the pram when her ears are ok, she might get the odd pram ride too. But if I find I want both of them in a pram, I'm just planning on jumping on TM and getting one second hand. I don't think it'll be an urgent "need pram this minute" situation, so I'll wait and see if that's going to be what I need/want before I shell out the money. I could have saved myself the $300 I spent on DD's pram, that's for sure!
We will have a similar gap to the OP, and my purchases thus far have been a second manduca, another carseat, a baby hammock in the hope this one might actually sleep one day, a decent baby monitor so I can have DD firmly shut out of the baby's sleep area but still hear bub, and a quad bike for my farmlet - cos it's getting damn hard work carting DD, the belly AND the calf/pig/chook food etc!
We moved DD into a single bed at 16 months and it was fine. We do keep a single mattress on the floor beside her bed because she has frequent ear problems and tends to fall out of bed a lot when they flare up. When her ears are fine, she's fine, but often the first sign is she falls out of bed, so we'll keep the mattress there for now.
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Posted By: kebakat
Date Posted: 19 September 2011 at 1:26pm
bookwyrm - my 4 year old still goes in the pram sometimes if I wanna go for a big walk he jumps in and I put Alex in the doubles seat on the back. Beats walking at a snail pace!
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Posted By: LivMcD
Date Posted: 20 September 2011 at 6:40am
Thanks for all the replys everyone, personally I wont be going shopping etc with two youngins ill be waiting till late night shopping or the weekends when DH can help, I find taking one baby shopping hard enough especially since the pram can hardley fit through some of the shops anyway! I think a double pram may just be too rediculous at the shops! Plus DD will be in day care 3 mornings a week so cn do my walking then.
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Posted By: TheKelly
Date Posted: 20 September 2011 at 3:05pm
supermarket shopping isn't too bad (I do it with a 2 year old and 7month old) cos they have those trolleys that have a toddler seat and an infant seat next to it.
And my double buggy is the same size as a single so I don't have any issues there ...even so...I hate shopping so if I can,I get DH to go.Ha,to him
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Posted By: LivMcD
Date Posted: 20 September 2011 at 3:39pm
hehe thanks TheKelly, thats good about your pram, Im just not sure I can justify spending extra $$ but we'll see if Im finding ittoo difficult once bubs is here Ill be happy to buy one. And very true about the grocery shopping!
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Posted By: TheKelly
Date Posted: 20 September 2011 at 8:15pm
yeah,unfortunately the pram I got is quite expensive,think it was around $800,the only way I could justify it was knowing the baby could be in it for awhile cos it becomes a single...otherwise I think I would have had to figure out a way to make do with my wrap and the one pram,no way would DH have bought it if we weren't gonna use it for long,I prefer them but a lot are freakishly expensive
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Posted By: Delli
Date Posted: 20 September 2011 at 9:29pm
Yep, totally depends on what you do day to day I guess. I do the carrier and stroller combo rather than a double buggy. But. I don't do town. Hardly ever go. We live in the country and I've just never been much of a town person. When we do go I either do the carrier/stroller combo or carrier and Jude walks. But I hold his hand - he doesn't hold mine. It's not an option to not hold it. If he has a tantrum and decides he doesn't want to hold it - I'll be one of "those" woman you see dragging their toddler by the arm through the shops to the car (But town semi-terrifies me with small children! I'm much more relaxed on the farm or at a park etc where Jude can do his own thing and ride his bike or run around )
Anyway, to answer your original question. Only extra we got was a carseat. One thing I wish I had gotten that you may already have anyway was a baby monitor. Didn't need it with Jude as we were living in town and had a small house but with Willem I wanted one as Jude always wanted to go outside and play in the sandpit etc away from Willem's room where he was sleeping. I still wanted to be able to hear him cry. But never got around to getting one because of the aforementioned not doing town business. Other things that are handy at the moment but not necessary at all - a runner bike for the older child and we also find the iPod a great distraction for the older child when feeding etc ( ). In the early days also when Jude was getting used to another baby taking up some of his time - we designated one of his soft toys as his "baby" when changing Willem and he would wipe and change his baby at the same time so that he wasn't getting annoyed with the lack of attention. So, if you haven't already got a suitable soft toy or doll you can use, I would suggest one of those too. (Lol, funny that it is mostly all stuff for the elder child I'm suggesting!).
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Posted By: TheKelly
Date Posted: 20 September 2011 at 9:43pm
Oh Tyler will hold my hand,but if he decides he doesn't want to hold it,I can't be arsed with having to stop what Im doing just to take him out of the situation,would rather get the job done quickly so I can get home and watch Jeremy Kyle,Dr Phil and Oprah.
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Posted By: Delli
Date Posted: 20 September 2011 at 9:47pm
Hehe, I hate town anyway so it's a convenient excuse for me. Oh woops, toddler won't hold my hand anymore. Oh well, time to go home, I obviously can't do the errand anymore.
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Posted By: TheKelly
Date Posted: 20 September 2011 at 9:49pm
haha,I would use that at the supermarket,but id be afraid DH would call my bluff and tell me I can go later when hes home to look after the kids
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Posted By: Delli
Date Posted: 20 September 2011 at 10:02pm
Bahahahaha, and that's where my ability to (pretend to) be blindly oblivious to things comes in handy. I can hold out longer than DP and so he ends up going to the supermarket. Or he just hates the supermarket less than me. Either way, it works for me .
DP - "Man, we probably need to go to the supermarket sometime eh?"
Me - "Hmmm, what? Oh. Yeah. Maybe. Probably."
DP - "I'll go on Thursday night then. *Sigh*"
Me - Secretly punching the air in my mind because that means another month of me not having to step inside a supermarket.
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Posted By: Hopes
Date Posted: 21 September 2011 at 8:10am
TOTALLY off topic, but if only I was more like you guys, I'd be rich. With me, it's 'Oh, we've nearly run out of this, ooops, must run to the supermarket (and bring back twice as much as I went for while I'm at it)'. Sigh. Jacob loves the supermarket, and I like food shopping...
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Posted By: Delli
Date Posted: 21 September 2011 at 9:10am
Haha Hopes - see I can wait until the only things left in the cupboard are the cans that the labels have fallen off before I'm desperate enough to go to the supermarket...
Ok maybe a slight exaggeration. Slight.
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Posted By: EmDee
Date Posted: 21 September 2011 at 12:42pm
Lol Delli! My DH has resigned himself to the fact that grocery shopping is now his job. He is way better at it than me - he spends less as he can stick to the list whereas I always seem to find things we 'need'. Plus he is much quicker. Oh and I'm pregnant, so I'm far too tired to do it in the evenings
He's a bit of a geek though and has set up a spreadsheet in the order of the layout of the supermarket (so he can print out a list) and records the prices each week so he can see how much it will cost
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Posted By: TheKelly
Date Posted: 21 September 2011 at 1:39pm
Delli wrote:
Bahahahaha, and that's where my ability to (pretend to) be blindly oblivious to things comes in handy. I can hold out longer than DP and so he ends up going to the supermarket. Or he just hates the supermarket less than me. Either way, it works for me .
DP - "Man, we probably need to go to the supermarket sometime eh?"
Me - "Hmmm, what? Oh. Yeah. Maybe. Probably."
DP - "I'll go on Thursday night then. *Sigh*"
Me - Secretly punching the air in my mind because that means another month of me not having to step inside a supermarket. |
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Posted By: LivMcD
Date Posted: 21 September 2011 at 2:20pm
lol Ill break the mould and say I actually enjoy doing the grocery shop! Although things may change once #2 is here!
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Posted By: TheKelly
Date Posted: 21 September 2011 at 8:44pm
If you didn't live so far away Liv,I would totally hire you to do my shopping one day a week.
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Posted By: lostAmber
Date Posted: 23 September 2011 at 9:41am
^ have you considered getting Countdown to do their delivery option? I did that a few times when I was living in town.
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Posted By: TheKelly
Date Posted: 25 September 2011 at 8:09pm
haha,I did do that once,and Im not sure why I haven't again actually,cos I swear when that shopping arrived,it was like christmas,I was so excited
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