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Topic: Is this overtiredness?
Posted By: T_Rex
Subject: Is this overtiredness?
Date Posted: 04 July 2011 at 8:45pm
I've just spent an hour and 25 minutes settling my 18 month old to bed. She was tired, and started lying down with her head on the pillow right away but she just could not stay still. I'm sure if she could just lie still for 5 minutes she'd have gone to sleep, but mannnnnn, so frustrating. In the end I lay down beside her and cuddled her torso right up, but her legs still spent 20 minutes kicking and thrashing. She often has very restless legs, although tonight was more so than usual.

Is it simple over-tiredness that could be causing the inability to lie still, or should I be looking deeper? (The over tired is a bit tricky to get around cos we don't get home till about 5.40pm and she needs to be in the bath by 6 to get a quick settling time - not easy when she takes half an hour eating her dinner).

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Posted By: pudgy
Date Posted: 04 July 2011 at 9:17pm
Ds does exactly that whenhe is overtired. I usually try to give him a very firm cuddle and/or stroke his cheek and ear. I do shush as well is he keeps wiggling along with bum patting. I also tried making is bedtime bath slightly warmer and that seemed to help too.

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Posted By: Kalimirella
Date Posted: 04 July 2011 at 11:26pm
Kiara does something similar too. however I only have to put her on her back and hold her tummy till she starts sucking her fingers and calms down, then I can leave and she will go to sleep. (If I stay then she won't sleep....)
So I would agree with overtiredness, and it isn't always easy getting them to bed before they get that way either :(

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Posted By: gypsynita
Date Posted: 06 July 2011 at 1:16pm
yep same here - and often it means he won't feed properly either. I usually just put him in his cot and walk away, he will generally settle himself within 5 minutes, even if he does wake up later. I've found that if I try and hug it out or calm him myself it just gets worse.

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Posted By: luv2dance
Date Posted: 06 July 2011 at 5:23pm
DS has started this too, the other night he wanted me to stay in the room while he fell asleep and the little monkey fought it as much as he could. To the point where he was fighting to keep his eyes open rather than sleep!

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Posted By: T_Rex
Date Posted: 06 July 2011 at 7:56pm
Interesting replies. Luv2dance, DD does the same sometimes too, but this is different. She's trying to go to sleep but can't because she can't make herself lie still long enough to get there. I'm hoping it's a short-lived phase. She's in a bed so I can't leave her there to sort it out herself, she just gets up!

I was just a bit concerned because my plunket nurse has mentioned a link between restless legs and ADHD (which her son has) several times.

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Posted By: Shelt
Date Posted: 06 July 2011 at 9:12pm
DD is like this too when she is overtired. She thrashes around terribly and its like she wants to go to sleep but she can't coz her legs won't keep still.

Restless legs can be caused by a magnesium deficiency so I started giving her mineral drops (just a couple of drops on her cereal in the morning, she didn't even notice) and it may have been a coincidence but she has stopped thrashing as much. New Zealand soil is chronically low in minerals and even if you eat plenty of veges (and most kids don't) you can still be low in minerals.

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Posted By: kiwisj
Date Posted: 14 July 2011 at 12:09am
Originally posted by T_Rex T_Rex wrote:

Interesting replies. Luv2dance, DD does the same sometimes too, but this is different. She's trying to go to sleep but can't because she can't make herself lie still long enough to get there. I'm hoping it's a short-lived phase. She's in a bed so I can't leave her there to sort it out herself, she just gets up!



When we flew home to NZ earlier in the year DS1 took HOURS to get to sleep on the plane. He was almost asleep after takeoff and then the lights came back on and he was wide awake But this is exactly what he was like.. he didn't know what to do with himself and clearly wanted to be asleep but just couldn't settle down enough to get there In the end I cuddled him REALLY tightly and sang Incy Wincy Spider over and over and over and OVER until he was asleep. It was about 2am in the morning by that stage (flight left here at 8pm).

He did it while we were in NZ (on holiday) too. I had to be in bed with him for him to calm down enough to sleep which just doesn't happen here. We didn't "fix" it till we came home and we got back into our day to day routine and he was going to bed at his regular time.

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