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Topic: Car seats and safety
Posted By: Georgiegirl
Subject: Car seats and safety
Date Posted: 20 April 2011 at 10:14am
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Hi all your beautiful Yummy Mummies.
Car seats are an issue dear to my heart... and I want to give you all the opportunity to research and decide for yourselves what is best for the precious little bundle you are carrying. In our country the safety standards are incredibly low. We are lead to believe that the car seats sold to us are the best protection for our kiddies. So many of us forward face our babies as young as even 6 months even though Plunket recommends rear facing till 1 years old. Overseas the story is different. Sweden has the lowest fatality rates for Children worldwide... they recommend rear facing till 4 years old. In the US they are changing the law to rear face till 2years. I will attach some links so you can look into this yourselves. www.carseat.se This is the site that I purchase my car seat from. It is really informative. And no I am not advertising or earning anything for this... I am just a Mum who wants the best for our kiddies. http://www.bumbles.co.nz/products/Radian-XTSL-Car-Seat.html This link is for a product you can buy in NZ... It is highly recommended by lots of Mums. There is also a forum specifically about rear facing here on oh baby. Congratulation of being the Mummy of a little tummy bundle. I love being a Mummy!  ------------- http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/279456"> 
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Posted By: Nothing
Date Posted: 20 April 2011 at 10:28am
Ah good one Georgiegirl. I just hope that this is taken as someone posting so people can learn about their child's safety, rather than it coming across as being a scaremongering  ------------- 
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Posted By: Georgiegirl
Date Posted: 20 April 2011 at 10:37am
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Oh I hope so Aethalia... I really don't intend to scare...
I just wanted to educate to give Mums the option to investigate before they are too busy with their little bundles. Thanks for the Support Aethalia, ------------- http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/279456">
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Posted By: Alley-cat
Date Posted: 20 April 2011 at 12:49pm
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Georgiegirl, so glad to see this posting I too feel very strongly about care seats and agree it is an issue that needs more awareness. Our DS was only 2 months when we got our first comment about how we should change him to forward facing so he could see better... struggled to bite my tongue on that one.
I managed to find this one in NZ it can be rear faced until 40lbs and I got it from Baby Factory when they had a sale, but a few online retailers have it to. Here it is at http://www.babyuniverse.co.nz/product/safety-1st-complete-air-se-convertible-car-seat/ Have used it for several months now and find it great, however it is a bulky seat, might want to check to make sure it will fit in your car first, but that is probably a good idea with most carseats and cars! ------------- 
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Posted By: Lillybetts
Date Posted: 20 April 2011 at 1:46pm
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Agree with you Alley-cat. It's good to get that information out there, so parents are informed. Before my brother told me all about rare facing and how much safer it is - and about the cheaper car seats, I was completely oblivious. The government needs to make it more of a priority to get it out there.
I had a friend who front faced her baby as a newborn (this was 7 years ago). This was a S&S seat and she didn't read the instructions. I hadn't known about it either as I was only 17 at the time. But now I know how completely dangerous it was. ------------- http://alterna-tickers.com"> 
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Posted By: swifty
Date Posted: 20 April 2011 at 2:10pm
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As you can see from my ticker my DS is over 2 1/2yrs and I have NO intention of having him forward facing in the near future. I get soooo many comments about how I am spoiling his view, he should be ff by now etc...
My response is always the same... safety first. ------------- http://lilypie.com">  http://lilypie.com">
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Posted By: Charmar
Date Posted: 20 April 2011 at 2:20pm
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Good info, alot of people really need to be more aware when it comes to car seat safety....
My almost 3 year old is still rear facing, and will be for as long as possible. I got my seat from www.carseat.se as well, I would def. reccomend them! -------------  
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Posted By: Georgiegirl
Date Posted: 20 April 2011 at 2:28pm
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[QUOTE=Alley-cat] Georgiegirl, so glad to see this posting I too feel very strongly about care seats and
I managed to find this one in NZ it can be rear faced until 40lbs and I got it from Baby Factory when they had a sale, but a few online retailers have it to. 40Lbs is only a little over 18kg. Our Britax will rear face till 25 kgs which I hope is around the age of 5 years. Good luck finding solutions girls... Maybe if we all start questioning Plunket about the low standards they may look at their policies and the message that they give parents... as they are the idea way to communicate with Families. ------------- http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/279456">
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Posted By: Georgiegirl
Date Posted: 20 April 2011 at 2:31pm
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Lillybets Quote
" Before my brother told me all about rare facing and how much safer it is - and about the cheaper car seats, I was completely oblivious. The government needs to make it more of a priority to get it out there. " Like you I too was oblivious. It was my Mother who drew my attention to the issue of rear facing. My little girl is a Special needs baby too, so I was very aware of her need to remain rear facing. As she has very little head control. ------------- http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/279456">
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Posted By: Lillybetts
Date Posted: 20 April 2011 at 2:47pm
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That's fair enough Georgiegirl. I find plunket quite intense with safety (have to have baby sleeping this way, watch them all the time ect ect), I would of thought they would change they're recommendations to at least 18kg rare facing. ------------- http://alterna-tickers.com">
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Posted By: Alley-cat
Date Posted: 20 April 2011 at 3:28pm
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Georgiegirl you make a valid point about the difference between 18kg and 25kgs, however I have looked at what the weights of a child would be at a predicated age and made a decision from there.
I just had a another look at the charts and the age at which a boy would reach 18kg ranges between 3-7yrs with 50% at 18kg by 4yrs 10months. For us with our DS being such a long lean baby sitting on the 5% mark for weight it would take an extreme change of growth rate for him to outgrow the seat before he was 5 due to weight. For your piece of mind the age at which a boy would reach 25kg is between 5-10yrs (50% by the age of 8) so you should have no problems making it to 5 with the Britax I know that for those with children on the other end of the scale the seat might not reach the desired 4 years, but for those with kids on the lighter end of the scale it is alot cheaper than alot of the other ERF seats, I think I paid $350 on sale, which might make it a better option for those on a tight budget, but still want to do the best they can. Of course it could be a hard decision if you wanted to purchase before baby was born but we like alot of people I know used an infant capsule to begin with, so hopefully by the time they need to move on from that you have a good idea of their predicated growth. Having said that if we could get everyone rearfacing to even just 3yrs that would make a huge improvement on current practises. -------------
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Posted By: Georgiegirl
Date Posted: 21 April 2011 at 8:18am
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Very valid Point Alley-cat, I've been very conscious of weight and ages as my little girl has always been in the 97% and at the age of 15 months is 12.2kgs already... I'm 5ft10 and DH is 6ft3. So we need all the extra that the britax can give us... Height and weight.
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Posted By: Limochick
Date Posted: 21 April 2011 at 6:41pm
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I turned my son ff when he was 1 and he is alot happier in his carseat now. I did do alot of research and that was the decision I came to. -------------  
 
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Posted By: Georgiegirl
Date Posted: 21 April 2011 at 7:13pm
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Limochick,
I really didn't start this forum to make great parents feel bad. It was really just to highlight the difference in what our organisations in NZ tell us, and what the alot of other countries now teach. Many amazing NZ parents turn their babies around believing that their kiddies are safe. Have a look at www.carseat.se... it's really interesting. BTW I love your Tickers! Super Cute.  ------------- http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/279456">
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Posted By: bebebaby
Date Posted: 24 April 2011 at 10:11pm
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I think its great to bring this topic up on this thread as we need to get the information out there to parents before they buy there seats. Especially from places like baby factory/baby city, where the majority of employers don't know anything at all about the carseats or carseat safety.
How many parents research the perfect colour scheme for the nursery, or the nicest pram out there. All of which is important, but SO is safety in the car. In a small child ie under 2-3 if they are involved in a crash they are more likely to sustain upper spinal/neck injury, as there heads fall forward, while the body is restained in the carseat. Not good! Look for a carseat that rear faces over 15kg! And that allows you to use all the strap heights on the carseat! Also check that they will fit in your car. There are some decent carseats that allow you to rear face till 16kg, that are $200 to carseats that will cost $590. So preggy mums, look into extended rear facing. My boy is in a brio, and is happy as! He can see perfectly fine and loves looking at everything going by. ------------- http://alterna-tickers.com"> 
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Posted By: Kalimirella
Date Posted: 24 April 2011 at 11:50pm
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Just as a note, my mum (at my prompting) recently got one of those cute mirrors you hang over the backseat/headrest so you can see your little one when they are rear facing and they can see you.
So we put it in the car today and she LOVES to chat to her "dragon" and herself in the mirror. Its just a cool rearfacing accessory especially if you like to check up on them. We got the cosco scenera which is one of the cheapest ERF seats out there, goes up to just under 16kg (15.8 or 15.9) but for this next baby we will buy a radian and put our older child in it and play switcheroo with the seats :D And even though you have no control over how your kid grows, I am just so glad mine seems to be on the smaller side! ------------- Kiara is 3 and Teagan is 2, now we're expecting our long awaited 3rd! http://lilypie.com" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: minik8e
Date Posted: 25 April 2011 at 8:53am
| I don't think it's a matter of Plunket etc making the knowledge available that simply gets parents to choose a carseat that ERF. The cost is also something HUGE to consider. I had to buy two carseats, and went for SnS Omega which RF till 12kg - even on sale it was $600 for both. My girls are FF in them now and have been for about a month. But I needed somewhere that we could use finance (in my case, Mum's Farmers card) as paying off 2 in the space of a short 3 months (on layby) just wasn't possible at the time. We don't have any stockists around here that do the Cosco either. |
Posted By: Georgiegirl
Date Posted: 25 April 2011 at 9:13am
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Minik8e, there are a lot of online shops that will sell and deliver. You are right the cost is high for a quality seat that will rear face your bundle till they are safe to turn around. But I assure you, investing in your babies safety will be something you will never regret.
I had friends who gawked at spending $600.00 on a car seat but had a number of Merino grow bags that cost the $250.00 a pop.... its often a matter of choice. Though I can only imagine the costs involved with having to buy 2 of everything! ------------- http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/279456">
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Posted By: minik8e
Date Posted: 25 April 2011 at 9:27am
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I know about the online stockists Georgiegirl, but personally, I would rather see and look at something I am paying big bucks for. Plus needing somewhere that I could use finance - I don't have a credit card, so had to rely on my parents. I also needed to make sure they would fit in our vehicle that we had at the time. So there's so much more to it than just having the knowledge.
My children's safety is paramount, and I have done the best possible within the limits I have, and that is what is important. So more than people just looking at ERF, they need to look at getting the best carseat possible that they can afford, even if it DOESN'T last until 16+ kg RF. I totally agree that RF is better than FF, but I also understand that sometimes it just isn't possible and therefore it's better to do the best you can. |
Posted By: Kalimirella
Date Posted: 25 April 2011 at 11:43am
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we got the cosco off babyuniverse.co.nz, they take credit cards (visa), and give you smilecity points, so if you end up with enough you can get $100 back :D
------------- Kiara is 3 and Teagan is 2, now we're expecting our long awaited 3rd! http://lilypie.com" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Limochick
Date Posted: 25 April 2011 at 11:49am
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Hey Kate - I've got alot of our stuff from baby on the move and she lets us layby they have been great. I am the same as you I need to see something before buying it rather than just a pic.
We've got a evenflo symphony all in one and it's great. It also allows rf up till they are 18kg but he's ff cos otherwise it won't fit in our car very well. -------------
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Posted By: Georgiegirl
Date Posted: 25 April 2011 at 12:27pm
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Minik8e,
Opps I re read my post. Its really hard to talk about this subject without sounding all judgemental. I seriously started this forum to help educate about rear facing.. not to alienate Mums who are doing the best they can for their babies. sorry if I came across all stroppy it was not my intention. Limochick, I agree Limochick Baby on the move is awesome. I also agree with Minik8e I struggled buying my seat online without seeing it... so I'm sure that buying 2 would be even harder. ------------- http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/279456">
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Posted By: Limochick
Date Posted: 25 April 2011 at 12:31pm
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It's a bit like texting you have to be careful how you word things cos people can take it the wrong way lol. I myself feel like people who rear face for ages think badly about people who turn there babies forward facing but that's just what I've come across. We are all trying to do the best for our children!! -------------
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Posted By: Whateversville
Date Posted: 25 April 2011 at 2:24pm
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I'm the same as Kate, apart from having to buy two seats, I had to buy one on my minimal DPB. We don't have a baby on the move here and so I went with a Hipod that RF til 12kg and my DS is only 9.6kg at 1yr so he's ok in it. But he HAAAATES being RF. I kept him RF as long as mentally possible. But now I have him FF. I had all the intentions in the world to ERF but it didn't work out that way. When RFed he would wriggle and squirm and scream trying to turn around to look at me. I even got one of those mirror dragons to help but it didn't and now that he's FF it's not a huge screaming battle on car trips. However, we don't go in the car all the time as we often catch the bus around town.
I'm all for ERF and I tell all my friends about it etc but I feel like a bit of a fraud, but I will always teach my friends etc about it.. |
Posted By: KatzWtgn
Date Posted: 25 April 2011 at 11:41pm
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I reckon good on you for posting in this forum Georgiegirl. Of course everyone is doing the best for their children, and the most important thing is that the child is actually properly restrained in the car at all -- but I think, especially for first-time parents, it is good to be made aware about the possibility of ERF then they can make their own decision.
I only found out about ERF after DS was born, and had (being super-organised :) ) already bought a car-seat when I was pregnant for him to use after he grew out of his capsule. I got a Hi-pod too, as I thought that I had done research on safety standards, six point harnesses, etc, but somehow just never saw anything in NZ about ERF. ------------- [IMG]http://lb3f.lilypie.com/rGG7p13.png] |
Posted By: Georgiegirl
Date Posted: 26 April 2011 at 3:00pm
I was exactly the same, I too thought I had done my research.. ERF, became something I sought out because DD was growing really quickly and with her Syndrome her head control was obviously not ready to turn around. I just hope I can save some preggy Mums the cost of having to buy a third car seat.... We got a capsule, then a Royal safe and sound.. but now DD is too heavy to ERF in that so is in her Britax Multitech.... it really adds up. If I had known earlier I could have saved the $400ish I spent on the safe and sound. ------------- http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/279456">
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KatzWtgn wrote:Posted By: bebebaby
Date Posted: 26 April 2011 at 8:54pm
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I agree, that everyone does the best for there child. But I think like you say, its good to bring it up, so people are aware of the option to exf. So if they have the choice, then they might look into something other than a sns for instance.
My friend ff at about 11 months, but turned the child around at 18mnths as she bought a radian. And to her suprise is loving it. So its never too late to go back to rf. ------------- http://alterna-tickers.com">
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Posted By: minik8e
Date Posted: 26 April 2011 at 11:20pm
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I know what you mean Georgiegirl, I just wanted to make the point that the important thing is that we, as parents, do as much as we can within our own personal capabilities to ensure our childrens safety The car I originally used with the carseats had very little room for the back seats, and even though I have since discovered the Radian (and would kill for a couple of them LOL), they would never have fitted in our car that we had at that time. We struggled to fit the capsules in (we hired from our Multiple Birth Club - less expense)! I would have hated to have bought 2 of them, and then they would have been basically useless, as it's not always cost effective buying a new car instead....
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Posted By: Georgiegirl
Date Posted: 27 April 2011 at 7:58am
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I hear you Minik8e, I'm in the process of trying to find a car that is going to work for me.
I need to find a car that will ERF 2 children and its not easy. DH and I are both tall. 6ft 3 and 5ft 10, I have to have the drivers seat in a safe position. But out other factor is getting my girl in and out of the car.... She is 12.2kgs now and is still very floppy so bending down to put her in the seat is getting to be be very HARD work on my lower back. I'm thinking a Rav4 is probaby the best option... its high enough to be easier on my back.. has a great safety rating. and older ones aren't tooo expensive. Any ideas?  ------------- http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/279456">
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Posted By: choco69
Date Posted: 29 April 2011 at 10:57am
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was talking to my sister about this topic yesterday as she lives in Australia and the rules are alot tougher ( http://www.childrestraints.co.nz/law.php - nz vs aus law )
guess it came up for me as being pregnant I now notice alot of things that never occurred to me that much before like car seats or small children (either rear or front facing) being in the front passenger seat of a modern car which has a passenger airbag ... having worked in insurance and seeing accident testing videos I know those babies/children would be toast if the airbag deployed think there is so many things for new parents to be aware of and we end up relying on salespeople and experts like Plunket to set us in the right direction however they are not always in the know or we don't know what questions to ask because we don't know what we don't know ------------- http://lilypie.com">  
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Posted By: Nothing
Date Posted: 03 May 2011 at 11:36am
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Here is a http://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/Please-Stop-Early-Forward-Facing/127827417293776 - link to a new FB site about car seat safety -------------
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Posted By: Georgiegirl
Date Posted: 03 May 2011 at 11:56am
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Thanks Aethalia I'm Loving the new FB site. It really made me cry watching the video... I feel so helpless I wish I could blink and make the problem go away.
The thing I struggle with the most is that it is not just parents that neglect and beat their children... its educated intelligent parents who forward face their babies. I have two friend that FF their kids at the age of 6 month...both bought expensive angel movement baby monitors... worried about cot death... yet FF!!!!!! infuriating. One of the Mums now has her 2 year old FF in the front seat. I asked her if she disabled the airbags she just rolled her eyes like I was a looney! He also watches DVD's on a portable player that just sits in the glove box... This would be fatal in an accident! How do I get through?????? he is my god son. I feel like I am letting him down by not fighting for his safety... but I think it would be the end of our friendship.  ------------- http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/279456">
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Posted By: Hopes
Date Posted: 03 May 2011 at 6:08pm
Honestly? I think now's the time you accept that while you might not agree with your friend's decisions, it's her baby and she has every right to parent her way. You seem like a nice, decent person, and I'm sure this is just an issue you feel strongly about, and that's why it's really important to you. I understand - we've got a Radian, and Jacob will be rear-facing as long as possible. On the other hand, people who make a different decision to us and forward-face their children earlier than we would aren't breaking the law or anything. They're taking a greater risk... but we all have to decide where we draw the line at an 'acceptable risk' in our kid's lives. You can't rule risk out of your lives - and where you and I draw the line might be different to where other people so, and as long as it's legal and all, that's fine. I think it's a really really good idea to get the information out there (because a lot of people buy a carseat without knowing anything about ERF), but I do think we've got to respect others decisions once we've done that. Oh - and re the Australia / New Zealand carseat rules; Radian's are actually illegal in Australia. It's hard to find car-seats that rear-face for a decent length of time over there at alll, to the point where people are choosing to import Radians and use them illegally because they know they are safer. -------------   
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Posted By: Georgiegirl
Date Posted: 03 May 2011 at 7:22pm
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Hopes, I know you are right. I guess I just really worry about him. I wont say anything to them again. But will feel eternally guilty if anything happens to him. Esp considering DH and I are his God Parents and made vows to look after him, keeping him safe and alway be his advocate.
Its definitely not legal to have a TV screen on in the front of the car, when it is in motion.However,you are right, they are entitled to make their own decisions... some of their decisions just make me sad. I'm LOL probably not as much of an activist as I came across in my earlier rant... I was just venting really. But thanks for the reality check. ------------- http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/279456">
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Posted By: Kazper
Date Posted: 04 May 2011 at 9:45am
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I'm not against people who ff at all. The problem lays with the system and their recommendations. Its easy to go with the flow and if that flow is ff when ever you want then that is what the majority will do. RF is only part of the problem. Many people just buy their car seat and stick it in the car without reading the instructions. Most people won't realise that if the car seat comes with a tether strap and says in the manual to use it - then you HAVE to use it! and likewise with straps. People probably don't realise there is a rule of thumb with them. RF = at shoulder height or below and ff = at shoulder height or above. I didn't know anything about this stuff until I joined this site and someone pointed it out on my due date thread.
So guess what I am saying is, our Government/Plunket etc are the people we should be looking to to make changes and educate. ------------- http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/545141" rel="nofollow">  |
Posted By: kiwikt
Date Posted: 04 May 2011 at 9:49am
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Interesting discussion.
I am currently looking at buying a car seat second hand off a friend. It is a Save n Sound car seat so I am confident it is a good brand. But I have read so much stuff that says you should not buy second hand carseats. I know this car seat is 5 years old (she has used it from birth to 5 for her daughter), it has never been in a accident and has been well looked after. Even if we only use it for a couple of years it means I dont have to spend $400-500 now on a carseat. Any thoughts on second hand car seats? ------------- Due 14/10/11 http://lilypie.com"> 
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Posted By: Kazper
Date Posted: 04 May 2011 at 1:37pm
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Ummmm I think if you know the history of the carseat yourself then why not. I'm pretty sure the average life span of a carseat is 8 years unless specified. ------------- http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/545141" rel="nofollow"> |
Posted By: bebebaby
Date Posted: 04 May 2011 at 1:58pm
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kiwikt, are you looking at using this carseat from birth? or will you be using a capsule?
There are a couple of decent seats at $200 new that you could use from 6months onwards. That will rear face to 16kg/18kg and allow you to use all the strap heights of the seat. Where as the safe n sound one, you can't use the top slot for rf. I personally don't see the point in getting a safe n sound as they only rf to 12kg, and they have teether straps that go over the carseat into the back, which are annoying, and require a teether bolt. If you want details on other carseats let us know. ------------- http://alterna-tickers.com">
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Posted By: Georgiegirl
Date Posted: 04 May 2011 at 2:20pm
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I would agree with both Kazper and Janini.
I actually borrowed a capsule from a friend, but only because I knew it had not been in an accident. I then bought a Safe and sound... and it has been a good car seat but it did mean I spent more than I needed to. However it will come in useful again once we have another little bub. http://www.carseat.se/ I found this site incredibly useful and ended up buying a Britax Multi-tech online from them. Congratulations on your precious little bean, exciting times... only a couple more weeks till you can feel that little one dancing in there. :)] ------------- http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/279456">
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Posted By: squizzy
Date Posted: 05 May 2011 at 10:17pm
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I just read this whole forum. Great info regarding ERF carseats that I had no idea about before. Personally I am an advocate for carseats in planes and rearfacing adult seats in planes too so as you can imagine I am really pleased to learn that ERF carseats exist.
I fully agree that a parent has the option to chose and that you have to work within your means. Risk taking is an interesting thing. It's safer to have your baby on your lap in a plane without a seat belt than in a car seat (because flying is inherently safer means of transport) yet I feel less safe on a plane. Irrational, yes but very human. |
Posted By: HoneybunsMa
Date Posted: 05 May 2011 at 11:44pm
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I really wish I could afford to ERF but it wouldn't have worked with DD anyway she was hurting her neck trying to see us. We went straight into a convertible carseat for the fact that DD is half samoan her cousin grew out of his capsule in three months, and from my understanding alot of the ERF seats available although they say from birth or 2.xxx kg they aren't really suitable for a younger child.
RE the tv screen in the front I found this on the AA site (Jack Biddle is a tech guy who knows alot about cars and safety and having worked for the company many moons ago I trust and know his judgement I]There was a past Warrant of Fitness rule which prohibited a driver viewing a DVD/ Television screen when the vehicle was in motion. With the influx of modern navigation and in-dash screen-based entertainment systems however, a recent revision to the rule was made. Basically, it is no longer a Warrant of Fitness requirement to check to see if the screen can be viewed by the driver. The responsibility falls on the driver to pay attention to the road at all times. Many new vehicle manufactures that incorporate DVD/Televisions in their vehicles ensure the screen is blank when the vehicle is in motion or place the units away from the drivers vision (in the rear of the roof or behind the front seats). We would always suggest an after-market installation follows the same rules. Source [url]http://www.aa.co.nz/motoring/tips/ask-jack/advice/Pages/are-DVD-players-prohibited-in-cars.aspx[/url] ------------- http://www.myfitnesspal.com/weight-loss-ticker"> 
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Posted By: Georgiegirl
Date Posted: 06 May 2011 at 8:14am
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HoneyBunsMa, Thanks for that link...
My major concern re the DVD player was not just Mum being distracted, but also about the fact that the relatively heavy toy was simply balancing in the glovebox not installed at all. It would become a very dangerous projectile in an accident... and it would be heading straight at the toddler. Just wondering, Maybe your DD needed a bigger refacing mirror so she didn't have to turn around. ------------- http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/279456">
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Posted By: kiwikt
Date Posted: 06 May 2011 at 9:25am
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janini - I have a capsule already, so I would be looking at using this from 3-6 months (or when ever bubs grows out of the capsule).
I am pretty sure the car seat my friend has is till 4-5 years old (or 18kgs). She has used it for her daughter until almost 5. I am checking it out on Saturday so I will look at the attachments etc. To be honnest if I only pay $50 for it and use it for 2 years I will be happy. By then I will have been back at work for a while and our disposable income will be a lot more for me to go out and buy something else. My only concern was safety. ------------- Due 14/10/11 http://lilypie.com">
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Posted By: Georgiegirl
Date Posted: 06 May 2011 at 10:08am
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"I am pretty sure the car seat my friend has is till 4-5 years old (or 18kgs). She has used it for her daughter until almost 5. I am checking it out on Saturday so I will look at the attachments etc."
Most 4-5 year olds are around 25kgs, my little is is 12kg now at 15 mths (she is a big girl) But if the seat goes only to 18kgs it will not rear face till 4-5 years. Good luck, I hope it all works out for you, as all any of us want is to keep our kiddies nice and safe.  ------------- http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/279456">
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Posted By: Bobchannz
Date Posted: 06 May 2011 at 10:32am
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Plunket has changed their recommendations to rear facing to two years. It will take awhile for this info to start to show up in their literature.
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Posted By: Georgiegirl
Date Posted: 06 May 2011 at 10:53am
Its a great start... I really hope that parents pay attention. ------------- http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/279456">
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Posted By: bebebaby
Date Posted: 06 May 2011 at 1:24pm
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kiwikt, you are aware that the safe n sound only rear faces to 12 kg? And forward faces to 18kg. Where as something like a cosco rear faces to 16kg, and 18kg forward facing. The safe n sound doesn't allow you to use all the shoulder straps when rear facing, so most children outgrow it around 1-1 1/2 years.
So if you are wanting to keep bubs rear facing for longer, then the safe n sound won't be good enough. Yes it is a safe seat. But it isn't the safest seat. Have you looked at this video clip to show you the difference in rear/forward facing in an accident. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sssIsceKd6U - Rear facing vs forward facing I'm not trying to be ott, but I want you to make an informed decision. I get what your saying about using it for a while, then buying another carseat later. I just know that from experience, sometimes it can be hard to justify buying an upgraded model of something you already have, even given safety. As money is always needed somewhere else. Do you have a local baby on the move franchise. They are usually quite helpful and can show you difference carseats and how they install etc. Which may give you a better idea of what will work for you and your car. Good luck with what ever you decide.  ------------- http://alterna-tickers.com">
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Posted By: kiwikt
Date Posted: 06 May 2011 at 2:13pm
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We are going to baby on the move next weekend because we want to look at their strollers. So I might look at car seats then.
I didn't know that they only rear face until 12kgs. I definitely want one I can rear face until 2 years. ------------- Due 14/10/11 http://lilypie.com">
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Posted By: Emmi_
Date Posted: 06 May 2011 at 3:08pm
kiwikt, i just thoughtg i would add that the average life span of a car seat is 5-8 years (as pp said), but this is from the date of manufacture, so it could be 1 or 2 or possibly even 3 years old before your friend used it.
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