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Topic: Daycare or not??? help please
Posted By: peanut butter
Subject: Daycare or not??? help please
Date Posted: 12 December 2008 at 11:14am

I have a dilemma.  I have Tom enrolled to start at the new preschool thats opening around the corner.  He is down to start at the beginning of Feb. But I dont really know my motivation for enrolling him.

 

He went to preschool before we moved but I was working and he was only in for 2 half days.  he loved it.  I guess I kinda assumed I would just find him one here.  But I wont be working and I am a little afraid that he might feel pushed aside with bubs arriving in Jan.

 

We just went for a look around and he happily played with all the toys.  They couldnt give me all the details yet except that they have 18 under 2s enrolled and are looking at ratios of 1:5 for the unders.  I only met one of the teachers and she is there for a few months until another centre opens in Oamaru.  she was nice...but very young.

 

Why should I put him in?  I was going to cancel our booking as I thought the only reason I really wanted him in was because it is nearly impossible to get a place at a daycare in Cromwell until they are nearly 3.  But I dont feel thats a good enough reason.  I am not going to be working so why cant he stay home. 

 

Then a few of my coffee group friends said that they would definately keep him in as I am going to need the time out with a new baby. 

 

Help!!!! I would love to hear some opinions, experiences etc.

 

Also...who knows how the child care subsidy works?




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Posted By: Redbedrock
Date Posted: 12 December 2008 at 12:08pm
You could try it and then cancel, if you cancel now and suddenly find come Feb you need the time out with Peppercorn then you are stuck due to waiting lists and such

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Posted By: peanut butter
Date Posted: 12 December 2008 at 1:06pm
That is what I was thinking too.


Posted By: cuppatea
Date Posted: 12 December 2008 at 1:24pm
Yeah I agree with redbedrock. You can cancel before he starts or even trial him and if he doesn't settle or you think he is feeling pushed out then take him out. He might actually enjoy going though, all those new toys and other kiddies to play with.

Sorry no idea about the subsidy

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Posted By: jack_&_charli
Date Posted: 12 December 2008 at 3:31pm
i know when charli arrived i loved having jack at daycare! i mean that in the nicest way of course

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Posted By: lizzle
Date Posted: 12 December 2008 at 5:15pm
me too.   and Jake loved having other kids to play with. It was wonderful to be able to feed Taine without "helpers". jake simply thrived there, and we both enjoyed some time out. I would definitely recommend it...and hey, if it doesn't suit you and the family, cancel!


Posted By: yummymummy
Date Posted: 12 December 2008 at 6:29pm
Gina loooves daycare. They get to do a lot of things we don't really do at home like messy play, water play, paining etc. She also gets to intereact with other kids and has gotten to be a very confident child as a result

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Posted By: Rachael21
Date Posted: 12 December 2008 at 10:50pm
Or even say you don't want the Feb spot but do want the next spot?

For the subsidy if you earn more than $1600 a week before tax you won't get anything heres the http://www.workandincome.govt.nz/manuals-and-procedures/deskfile/extra_help_information/childcare_assistance_tables/childcare_assistance_income_abatement_and_rates-01.htm#P16_527 - link with the table to let you know rates. Maximum of 9 hours subsidised.


Posted By: Bel
Date Posted: 13 December 2008 at 9:32am
What kind of days have you booked him in for - if it is only part time like he was in chch then I would go with it. Everybody around me reckons that i am going to want some time out from Luke once baby gets here - but we don't have the choice... MIL is going to have him quite a bit to give him a change of scenery and some adventure!

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Posted By: peanut butter
Date Posted: 13 December 2008 at 10:20am
I think that is the problem Bel.  In Chch he was in for 2 half days (one mornign, one afternoon). THis one is a minimum of 2 6 hour days


Posted By: sno0ze
Date Posted: 13 December 2008 at 10:56am
I think going a couple days a week, even for half days is really good especially with the social interaction with the other children his age. My DD has been in daycare for a while and loves it there !! Plus gives you a break with the new baby - I would get him in early though before baby arrives so he is settled in and doesn't feel left out when baby arrives



Posted By: sno0ze
Date Posted: 13 December 2008 at 10:59am
sorry just read back and you can't do half days, If it was me I would probably book him in for the two days and you could always pick him up early or ring in and see how he is going?
Good luck with your decision


Posted By: peanut butter
Date Posted: 13 December 2008 at 2:57pm

Originally posted by sno0ze sno0ze wrote:

I think going a couple days a week, even for half days is really good especially with the social interaction with the other children his age. My DD has been in daycare for a while and loves it there !! Plus gives you a break with the new baby - I would get him in early though before baby arrives so he is settled in and doesn't feel left out when baby arrives

I'd be happier doing that but unfortunately it doesnt open till 5 Jan and this baby is due 14 Jan so I dont want any committments around the 5th.  I have Tom booked to start early Feb.  When I asked advice from the manager on how kids cope with a new sibling etc she didnt seem able to answer...just thought I should start him 5 Jan.  I dont want to be paying for days he's not there because we are in turmoil with a new baby.



Posted By: Glow
Date Posted: 14 December 2008 at 1:34pm
I highly believe in Parents being the first & best teacher for your children. I have never sent my children to a public daycare, and I have no issues with their social/ emotional development from my choices, as they do attend other activities which meet their social needs.

I would keep the space, Nikki & just play it by ear, as others have said & see what happens closer to the time. You will just feel what is right or not



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Posted By: peanut butter
Date Posted: 14 December 2008 at 6:56pm

Thanks Glow, I wanted to here opinions from both sides and I think I am leaning a bit towards your thinking.  But at the same time trying to be realistic about what I can and cant cope with.  I also had the thought that the money would be better spent on a cleaner so I didnt have that to worry about. 

 

There are plenty of activities here that Tom goes to and I would want to keep them  up.  That keeps us busy 3-4 mornings a week.  I'm thinking that to put daycare in I would have to drop something or have an overcommitted boy.

 

Basically my gut tells me to drop it but EVERYONE has told me I'm nuts to even consider that.  The only advantage for Tom would be different stimulation and messy play (but I just need to get over myself and let him make a mess here).  Otherwise the advantages are all for me.

 

I'd love to hear what others who didnt use daycare think too.



Posted By: busymum
Date Posted: 14 December 2008 at 8:29pm
Do you have the option to let him go for say, two half-days per week or do they insist on more time than that? If you are SAHM yes it's nice to have the odd break but mostly I think you'll want the family together.

See how you find the new baby too, in terms of settledness etc. When I had #2 I started taking the girls to a playcentre so I could have adult company and Hannah could play with a wider range of things and people (not that she was very interested in the people then). If you click in a group like that, you will have plenty of people to call on (in a swapsie-type way) to help look after him when you need an afternoon off.

All personal experience and opinion of course, but that's from my experience and I loved being full-time mum.

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Posted By: peanut butter
Date Posted: 14 December 2008 at 9:19pm

Unfortunately I have to have him in for a minimum of 2 6hour days and thats the bit we are really not keen on.  Of course I can pick him up earlier but I still pay $35 per day.  $70 a week is a bit when you arent working.....think how much cleaning could be done for $70

 

They are having their official open day on 23rd so I am making hubby come with me for his opinion.  I cant believe I am having so much trouble with this decision.  As a result I think I mustnt want it deep down.

 

I think I would miss him.



Posted By: my4beauties
Date Posted: 14 December 2008 at 10:31pm

I see your point Nikki, and if that was my situation I don't think I'd put Tom into daycare,  moreso though in my view because of his age, and how long he'll be there. 

 

When Gia was 7 weeks, I put Rico into a private kindy for one morning a week - 3 hrs.  He was 2 yrs 4 mths though, and those 3 hrs was enough of a break for me, and him.  Because at that age (and Tom's) he was still having afternoon sleeps, that was my time-out. 

 

I would rather use that money on a cleaner, and when the cleaner is there you can spend time with Tom, either at the park, or doing other fun activities that daycare would otherwise do.

 

And I say, that if *you* don't feel right about putting him in DC, then don't let anyone tell you your nuts not to put him in.  He's your child and first-born, and wouldn't even be 2 yrs when he started.  If he was 3 or 4 then I can understand it a bit more as they do need that kindy time (IMO).



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Posted By: Rachael21
Date Posted: 15 December 2008 at 10:55am
I never put Jack into daycare either. We started playcentre when he was two but before that we had playgroup once a week and that was about it. You will be surprised with what you can cope with.

Jack was still having 2 sleeps when Caprece was born so I got their sleeps lined up and had plenty of time to myself, I actually think that hassle of dropping and picking up may outweigh the benefit while bubs is still young. Since newborns don't do much and you have already done it before you will find they don't take up so much time and there will be plenty of time for Tom.

Do they have a playcentre? Its got everything that daycare does but you are there and there are plenty of people on hand who love to cuddle little babies. We started going for Jack but Caprece is such a typical playcentre baby and she loves it too.


Posted By: lizzle
Date Posted: 15 December 2008 at 4:35pm
I second (or third, i foget) playcentre. some suck and are clichey, but we LOVED ours in Gisborne (manutuke for gissy ladies). I got kinda time out while stil having the kids around. it was my godsend when Taine was tiny, Jake was energetic and i needed to get out of the house.


Posted By: Glow
Date Posted: 16 December 2008 at 9:48am
Yea -we are a Playcentre family, we LOVE it & have all grown so much because of it. If we didnt have PC I dont think I would of coped LOL

I *think* your nearest PC is in Clyde

$70 for the cleaner; would give you an immaculate house, Nikki

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Posted By: peanut butter
Date Posted: 16 December 2008 at 2:27pm

Thats right Clyde is our closest.  AT the moment I think we are ok.  On Tuesday is Rhthym and Dance (like mainly music) and Thursdays are coffee group.  Fridays there is a community playgroup and Wednesdays will be swimming.  I think that is more than enough things to do.

 

$70 for a cleaner.......hmmmm, I think $30 for a cleaner and $40 for me!!!  pedicures, massages etc.....sounds better doesnt it.  Do you think the govt still pays childcare subsidy if I use it like that



Posted By: Glow
Date Posted: 16 December 2008 at 3:12pm
Love your way of thinking

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Posted By: McPloppy
Date Posted: 22 December 2008 at 8:23am
I did not put Lachie in kindy till he was two and he did not like me leaving...He loved the activities once I was gone but whenever we picked him up he always had a dirty nappy and i wanted to make sure he was well looked after and the only way I could ensure that was to do it myself...i only did it for one morning a week and it was just so he could socialize with children his own age. Now he is three He loves pre school and I made sure I got him settled in before bubby #2 arrived and it his special place to go that is just for big boys.

Basically I would leave it till he was older or find some home based care for two mornings or afternoons per week just to give you some down time if thats what you want or need. To go and get those pedicures

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