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KiwiL
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Topic: Two questions.... eating and book Posted: 12 May 2010 at 8:15pm |
Hi guys,
I am having trouble again with Jackson's eating. I think it is just normal annoying toddler behaviour but seeing as I have always been so clueless with all the food stuff, I am not quite sure what to do.
JJ has taken to spitting out his dinner all the time, for no apparent reason. Even things he previously loved. He is still not very advanced with foods and textures and doesn't really feed himself, so this is stressing me out. We still spoon feed him, but if he is spitting it out then he's not eating much. When we try to give him stuff he can feed himself, he just throws it on the floor (unless it is chicken nuggets). His variety of accepted foods is still not great, he is nervous around new foods, and I think he holds out for the things he really loves. We end up giving in to get him to eat, but I think we're at the stage where we have to start limiting him getting his own way.
Does anyone have any tips for handling food spitting? Or not eating what you've prepared because they would rather eat something else?
My second question kind of ties in - I am after recommendations for a good toddler book and how to handle them. Any that have particular emphasis on food silliness would be ideal.
Help! I feel my food related anxiety levels rising again!!
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Posted: 12 May 2010 at 9:27pm |
It may be a stage - Dan went through a stage a few months ago where his favourite foods were evil and nothing met his standards. I can understand why it's stressful for you though. How's he going with his weight and stuff? Could he handle a couple of days of you doing tough love - ie him not getting what he wants - and him not really eating much (if that works?)
Our rule is what's on offer is what's on offer. If he doesn't eat breakfast, it stays on the table and he get no morning tea till he eats it. It's always gone within an hour or two. I "start" over again at lunchtime. At dinner, I am a bit more lax b/c I want him to sleep through the night  so if he doesn't eat dinner, I'll try and find something that might bulk him up for dessert.
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Posted: 13 May 2010 at 9:49am |
Hayden has a few minor food / texture issues too, nothing like what you've been through but food is the first thing that gets mucked around when he's in a 'mood'.
Every couple of months or so we have a few weeks of fussiness with food, my 'technique' tends to be revert back to tried and true but dont offer alternatives, so dinners go back to really simple stuff / favourites / hidden veggies but dont offer him alternatives / pudding if he doesnt eat it (I consider three quarters eaten okay and pudding worthy). Yes the other night he woke at 2, 3 and 5am (back to sleep with a 1min cuddle) which I think was something to do with bugger all dinner but the next night he ate his body weight in chicken and mash potato!
Disclaimer - if he refuses a new dish, something he's not had before then I will give him a piece of vegemite toast.
I limit snacks too, dont give anything an hour before meal time, nothing too filling at afternoon tea time so dinner is more keenly anticipated
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Posted: 13 May 2010 at 2:33pm |
Spitting is SO annoying, we went through a bad phase of it, it mainly happens now when he is full, so he is happily eating then all of a sudden that last bite too much.
So for us it was a phase, we did the same as above stuck to foods we know he likes, he is not very adventurous now, loves eggs, quiche, macaroni cheese, but I just hide veg and meat in stuff sometimes it works.
We are trying to limit snacks and even if that means I distract him with cartoons or something to buy us more time so he is more hungry it can help.
Finley barely feeds himself either, if I give him a spoon he does a spoonful or two but then seems to get bored and just waits for me to do it, he's ok with finger food but even gets distracted with that and will sit there and open his mouth and let me do it - terrible but well I guess he'll grow out of it at sometime.
It does sound like very normal behaviour with food, most my ante natal group all of which had no issues with food pre 12 months some days cannot get a thing into them now.
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Posted: 13 May 2010 at 8:02pm |
Maybe try to see how much he is eating throughout the day and also over a week. This will give you an idea of how much he is eating. You might be surprised. Just like us he will be hingry one day and not the next.
I was told with #1 that no child has ever starved themselves (in NZ) and true to form she didn't either. We are not at this phase with #2 - YET - but the advice I had was try not to stress too much about it. At this age it is ONE OF THE FEW things that they have control over. The more you stress, the more there is a problem.
I can tell you from experience that all children will eventually eat a reasonable normal diet, will walk, will be toilet trained etc. Just think ...... by the time he goes to school this will all be over!
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Posted: 13 May 2010 at 10:29pm |
Thanks guys. I have just come home from a stupidly long day at work (conference) and about to go straight to bed. I'll give you an update tomorrow - slight breakthrough tonight while JJ was being babysat.
In the meantime - any good toddler books?
:-) xxx
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Posted: 14 May 2010 at 1:20pm |
I like Dianne Levy's books. I find them really common sense and she has wee sayings that I keep referring to when I'm dealing with Dan, like "ask, tell, act" .... Helps me be consistent.
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Posted: 14 May 2010 at 7:14pm |
Thanks Fliss.
Well, Susiec (from OB) babysat JJ last night and she sent me a text saying he had fed himself all of his dinner. Wow! So, this is the push we've been waiting for and now we'll start encouraging him to feed himself.
I had my first attempt tonight. I gave JJ his bowl and a spoon and then I fed him with a second spoon, and it seemed to work pretty well. He made one helluva mess though.... I hate mess and this is taking me right out of my comfort zone, but I guess I'll just have to learn to get used to it!
Tonight he ate 3/4 can of the Watties orange cans (ravioli, which we'd never tried before), 3/4 pottle of yoghurt (the rest is on his bib), 2 little shortbread bikkies and 2 Ritz crackers. I am pretty proud of that effort!
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Posted: 14 May 2010 at 7:30pm |
In regards to the book I have and love the book Toddler Tactics by Pinky McKay,
In regards to the feeding, I have gone with the let them feed themselves option as Heidi definitely eats more that way and I just don't let the mess get to me (easier said than done) but I have found that after letting her do it herself for awhile the mess is a lot less, she can feed herself her cereal and it hardly goes anywhere anymore. Oh and something that is a real hit here is gnocchi, I buy the packet stuff where the fresh pasta is and it only takes 2 minutes to cook.
Hope the great eating continues for you
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Posted: 14 May 2010 at 9:45pm |
That is really great Laurie, that is one big dinner. I used to dislike the mess but now I just try really hard to ignore it and clean up when we are done, Sophia definitly eats better when feeeding herself, adn she is so much better and tidier eater than a month ago. Also Sophia just sits up with us now (we have barstools at the island) and she seems to eat better being 'part of the family!'
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Posted: 15 May 2010 at 7:34am |
Gnocchi is a huge hit here too!
Like those book recommendations, we are dealing with tantrums on an hourly basis here  Luckily they don't last too long
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Posted: 07 August 2011 at 2:05pm |
check out the toddler section at www.thebookdepository.com
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Posted: 07 August 2011 at 3:09pm |
I read this great book, called toddler taming. best one I've read thus far. I didn't get to read it to the end (seriously libraries should let mums have an extra month to try finish their books!  ) so didn't get to the feeding chapter, but will definitely be getting it again.
with the food: argh I hated the spitting food! as hard as it is, try not to get cross about it because it also might be a toddler power play thing- they pick up so quick on how to annoy mum and dad and food is more often than not a VERY good way of doing that.
With Charli-Rose, I offer her the choice of two foods. if she would spit them out of refuse to eat them, I would ignore it BUT refuse to give her anything else. she would not be allowed any other food in that meal til she finished one of these two things. When doing this, I made sure it was a food she did like rather than something new. During these years I count new foods as a bonus that they are trying them rather than a necessity!
The theory behind this was that a toddler can't starve themselves- if they are hungry, they will eat. and if only one or two foods are on offer, then when they are hungry enough they will eat, as long as they know mum or dad won't cave and give them something else. I felt to mean to insist on just one food at a time in case she really didn't like it, so thats why I'd offer her two.
at first it was hard work but after like a week she got the idea. once or twice a month she will revert to "yuck all food other than toast is eeeeeviiiiil!" phase, so we go back to the 'this or nothing' technique and she gets through it again
good luck, hope something helps with his eating soon
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