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Topic: How can I curb this behaviour? Posted: 28 April 2010 at 1:56pm |
Daniel is driving me absolutely nuts lately and I don't enjoy him at all because of it.. he has been sick BUT this started before he got sick so I can't blame it on being unwell.
Hes always been a good sleeper for the past couple of years but in the last 3 weeks its just getting worse and worse. Hes gone from 7-7 sleeping to being put to bed, mucking around and yawning his head off, playing with curtains, banging on the door and finally falling asleep at 830ish. He goes to bed at 7pm because he is very tired and loosing the plot. After daylight savings he was waking just before 7, thats fine by us but its been getting earlier and earlier and today it was 520am.
He won't eat his meals properly. Doesn't matter what it is he doesnt wanna eat it even though we eat the same stuff, its his fav foods and still wont eat it.
Every question or request gets met with no, no nooo, NO, NOOO, NOOOOO!!! followed through with throwing himself onto the floor in a tantrum. He use to tantrum once a week type thing. Now its more like once an hour.
If he says something like mummy cuddle and I haven't quite heard him properly and I ask him if he wants a cuddle again, throws a tanty over it.
It use to be if we said no to something, or we will do x soon then that was acceptable, but now its a major meltdown.
DH comes home and says anything to Daniel and he has a meltdown.
I don't get where this has come from. But I'm over it.
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Posted: 28 April 2010 at 2:44pm |
Whoa sounds like our house!!!
The sleeping parts fine - 6.30/7pm-6.30/7am but only coz we tied him to the bed to keep him there and removed everything from his room (Daniel already has an empty room ae??) but he was doing the exat same thing with his sleepng before we resorted to that.
The tantys and the NOOOOOOO or the defiant screams then the 'evil eye' looks are prevalent atm
I know that a contributor here is actually something in his diet coz he has a major allergy rash so putting him on an elimination diet but other than that I use ask, tell, act with him and stay as non-reactive as I possibly can. I make sure we do something together everyday except daycare days - mostly I chuck them in the buggy and go to the park and he gets my attention and burns energy.
I find if I stay completely non-combative and keep my voice low, don't give him anything to react off of and just quietly put him in his timeout area if hes showing that kindof behaviour then he gets bored and starts just doing what hes told.
HTH but probably not since I bet your doing most of that stuff already. Maybe its just their age and stage??! Its a bloody annoying one...
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Posted: 28 April 2010 at 2:51pm |
Oh actually I have found that smiling at him when I look at him or ask him to repeat himself really helps.
If hes stomped his foot and screamed and I haven't been looking then I turn to him and either smile and say not an inside voice buddy then immediately turn away or I turn to him and smile and say did you want me? I get a good reaction 99.9% of the time. If I've turned away and he does it again I give him another big smile and ask him if hes being a monster then start growling and stomping after him as a 'mummy monster' (yes geeky lol but he thinks I'm a cool mum  ) which has him in fits of laughter and we manage to avoid a meltdown OR I give him a big smile and say you need a cuddle come here and he invariably comes running over for a hug and I divert his attention by asking him what he wants to play or if he wants to help me with whatever I have on my list. Its abit of an effort but makes our days alot happier.
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Posted: 28 April 2010 at 2:52pm |
My friend was telling me that her husband had read that boys have a big surge of testosterone just before age 3.
We are having some issues as well, mostly with not sharing and hitting out. Sleeping at this stage is ok, except missing naps which then leads to diabolical behaviour.
This is the fourth day with have missed a nap, and he managed to hurt himself in his room even though there is only a wardrobe (with kiddy locks on it) and his bed. We have the podiatrist soon as well so I'm hoping he can hold it together for the appointment otherwise I am gonna be one very embarrassed mummy.
So not much help, but you are not alone.
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Posted: 28 April 2010 at 2:53pm |
Yeah Daniels room only has his bed and his drawers so there is nothing interesting in there, no books or toys or anything like that. Tomorrow if he tries to get up in the hour of 5 hes gonna be told its still night time, put back in bed and I'm shutting the door. I don't care how much noise he makes.
Even when we go out and do stuff, he had a tanty today when we went shopping(he loves shopping) and as soon as we get back the tantys start again.
I really feel like slapping him sometimes (I wouldn't)
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Posted: 28 April 2010 at 2:54pm |
Hes weird with cuddles, he can be having a cuddle and then just be a dickhead while hes being cuddled and say he wants a cuddle even though hes in the middle of one
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Posted: 28 April 2010 at 3:00pm |
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I got so upset one day that I started hitting the couch next to him and just screaming at him to shut up  it can get sooooo frustrating!! I have definitely found the fake happy/calm attitude works well at actually keeping me calm - and deep breathing  ignoring him and not giving him a reaction also gets us relative peace most of the time.
Good luck with your appt two_boys!! Hope he holds it together for you!
I really do recommend the tying them to their beds thing. After about 7 months of doing it with Jake hes suddenly through that PITA stage and stays put by himself. It also really helped his sleeping coz there wasn't anything else he could actual do. I'd rather be a 'mean' mummy and have him well-rested than the other myself!
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Posted: 28 April 2010 at 3:04pm |
If he does that with the cuddles I'd just make a game of it y'know and ask him if you can cuddle his leg or his arm or his head, etc. If he responds well thats good but if he doesn't then just say ok normal cuddle then and keep hugging him. Not much more you can do I don't think.
Along with the testosterone they have a big developmental leap in their brains too if I recall correctly so they probably can't keep up with their own thought processes right now. Thats what I try and remember with Jake.
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Posted: 28 April 2010 at 6:50pm |
Babe wrote:
I got so upset one day that I started hitting the couch next to him and just screaming at him to shut up  |
It's so reassuring to know there are other people out there like me.
Dan's in bed 1 1/2 hours earlier after the tantrum from hell. Nothing worked and I was soooooo close to losing it. And funny enough, he's quiet.
Anyway, back to the OT ....
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Posted: 28 April 2010 at 6:57pm |
I asked daycare today what hes like there and he doesn't do any of this crap for them.
Hes an angel when they are eating. She said hes one of the best behaved when food is involved and she has never seen a tantrum from him.
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Posted: 28 April 2010 at 8:27pm |
Doesn't it just wana make you cry when you hear that Stace??!! Why can't they be like that 24/7?!
Fliss OMG congrats on baby #2 how'd I miss that??!!! Yep hear you on the tantrum - Jake screamed and cried and screamed for over an hour before we managed to get him into bed and calmed down
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Posted: 28 April 2010 at 8:38pm |
Wow it's like Daniel and Cooper are channeling each other! Although Cooper wakes during the night...
I have no idea what to do either... I'm sure my older two weren't like this...
I'm over the hitting, tantruming, NOing, crying, no eating, the works!
We're just trying not to give him to many options because that seems to frustrate him more. I also try to keep myself in check, otherwise I will have to send myself to the cupboard.
If you find the answer please share!
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Posted: 28 April 2010 at 10:58pm |
No advice here sorry, just sympathy. Sam is the same age and doing all the same things.
We're having meltdowns over nothing here and defiant behaviour.
Hopefully three is the magic number!
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Posted: 30 April 2010 at 12:02am |
LOL! sorry girls, but toby was like that and at 4.5 still is! drives me mental!
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Posted: 30 April 2010 at 11:17am |
Well I've sorted some. My hard nose approach to what time we get up in the morning has worked. The first morning he got up at 5:50 wanting to get up. I put him back in bed and said it was still night time. Few major tantys. Soon realised he wasn't gonna get his way and gave up and stayed there until 645am. Which is what I've determined is an ok time to get up. He wants to be up at 630, I want 7, so its in between. This morning I told him once and that was it.
I've figured out that part of it is how DH talks to him. Whenever Dh comes home he gets worse. Tantys are lessening because I've told DH what I've noticed
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Posted: 30 April 2010 at 12:11pm |
Well thats a good start with the mornings and DH
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Posted: 02 May 2010 at 9:52pm |
Just want to say Jakes been a little like this lately too. Definitely "harder to handle" and more tantys. No issues with sleeping, thankfully, but hes always been a good sleeper. But the meltowns, NOOOOs, telling everyone off, yelling at Morgan etc is all happening. DH also seems to wind him up. And he gets really upset at some things people say when we're out (jokingly telling him off etc). Hes never been great with food (fussy), so things are actually improving there, and no problems with eating (hes a big eater and seems to be always hungry!).
No advice sorry ---- but sounds like they're all going through it ......
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Posted: 04 May 2010 at 4:02pm |
Thanks for the tips, I'll try the mummy monster! I heard that about the testosterone too - like it doubles or something, and that it's more than an adult male (that bit may be wrong!)
Liv's only 2yrs 2 mths but the tanty's are ramping up. And it's so hard to get dressed and out of the house in the mornings.
On really bad days I give her a spray of rescue remedy (and for me!). I read on their website it's recommended for tantrums. It calms her down enough to get out of the house.
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