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    Posted: 03 November 2008 at 7:29am
Kylah has been on cows milk exclusively since Saturday, and i dont think its working well, but im not sure if its the cows milk.

Saturday night she was up all night howling, like not crying, in pain howling, we gave her some pamol and finally got her to sleep and some ungodly hour!

She was grizzly but ok on Sunday, now last night she was literally up all night, she slept with me and woke at least every hour howling in pain, i gave her pamol, and now that is normally a fight on its own, i usually have to put her dummy in her mouth, pull it out a little and squirt some pamol in but last night she willingly opened her mouth and took it all!

Do you think its the cows milk doing this? It started the day we changed, and she isnt teething.

She had a temp last night too.. and she slept on me and she NEVER does that either..

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We never had any probs with Jack so I am not quite sure what this could be. I would suggest stopping cows milk for a while and if poss going back to what you used to do? formula? Maybe wait a few days/week until she over better and then maybe try introducing it again slowly and see what happens.

Does she eat alot of yoghurt, cheese etc? I was told by Plunket that it didn't matter if Jack didn't drink alot of milk as he already got alot of the nutrients in the yoghurt, cheese, milk with cereal etc.

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Shes been having a bottle of cows milk in the morning, and milk on her weetbix. She would have water for lunch, and formula bottle before bed. Its when we changed the formula to cows milk too, she is now a very upset, unsettled tot..

She doesnt really like cheese but loves yoghurt..
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I am not familiar with formula as Jack was bf but maybe she is having trouble digesting the cows milk during the night as opposed to formula? Could you somehow slowly introduce the cows milk at night? Sounds like she is probably getting plenty of dairy foods at the moment.
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Maybe go back to formula for a while until she is feeling better and more settled and then gradually switch her over - 3/4 formula + 1/4 milk for a week and then 1/2 and 1/2 ..... Might make it easier Kylah to get used to the taste and for her tummy to process. Poor thing, it is so terrible when they are so sad (and pretty tough on tired mums too )


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If she has a temp it sounds like it may be a virus, not the milk. Especially considering she was tolerating the milk in the morning with no probs before. I'd go back to formula for a few days and see if it settles down .... but it sounds to me like shes sick, not having a reaction/intolerance to the milk, as that shouldn't result in a fever.
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Which milk are you giving her? It could possibly be too much too soon, how many mls are you giving her??
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We are giving her blue top milk.

She has 200ml in the morning, and has been for 2 weeks, she has water throughout the day, and 200ml after her bath before bed.

Is it to much?
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Aw poor lil girl. Hope she feels better soon.

(sorry no advice from me. Im still finishing off briahnas last can of formula, and she loves cows milk and have had no probs with it)

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I don't think it is necessarily too much for a child her age, but perhaps it is too much for her right off and she is getting a sore tummy. I would go back to the old way for a couple of days to see if that remedies the problem and then reintroduce the new way. Obviously if you notice the same change again then it's the milk.

You could drop some of her milk drinking though, I don't think it's too much but it is at least plenty. I would give her a bottle of water in the morning (because she doesn't need to fill up, she's about to have breakfast: weetbix and milk) and a bottle of cows milk at night.
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I wouldn't think that a change in milk would give her a temp, same as teething shouldn't. I would take her to the doc and have her ears/general health checked. If all clear then perhaps go back to giving some formula so that she is weaned onto the milk over a week or so as that might be easier on her tum.

400ml sounds about right to me as well, Spencer is only drinking about 300ml of formula (he's on a specialist one cos he's allergic to diary) and his paed has just changed him to the toddler one because he isn't drinking much, granted he doesn't have any cheese or yoghurt etc so that would probably make a difference too but still 400ml doesn't sound like too much.

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I had major problems putting my first onto cows milk - we thought he was lactose intolerant. He used to get tummy-aches at night, really windy (farty) during the day and horrific diarrhoea. He was just miserable. He couldnt even handle whole-milk in cooking either. I had him on whole-milk formula and so we figured it wasnt lactose-intolerant but intolerant to the fat content in the blue-top milk. We put him onto skim milk and he was back to normal almost instantly which proved our theory. (whole-milk formula is lower in fat content than normal blue-top milk and has a similar fat content to skim milk)

Anyway, we started giving him the skim milk and now, 6 months later, he has grown out of the problem and is back having normal blue-top whole milk all the time.

I suggest if she is okay on a whole-milk formula, try skim milk and see if it helps.
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We put her back onto formula yesterday and she was back to normal. She had sch a sore tummy it made her miserable, and she wold lie on me and id rub her back and it was the only way she could sleep.. poor wee girl. Will try again in a couple of weeks.
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