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    Posted: 02 November 2008 at 8:32pm
This is my first foray into the toddler section! I’ve been wondering for a while if I’m potentially creating meal time problems with Anyssa, and after reading through a few food related threads I think I could be creating some bad habits...

Anyssa has a massive appetite and I think would just keep on and on eating if I let her. She is quite communicative, and says “num num num” when she’s hungry, signs “more” and asks for her favourite foods by name or sign, and points to other things that she wants when she’s in the highchair.

Since she started solids she has been eating her mush (meat and vege) and then having fruit as finger food to follow up. So, obviously she’s learned that yummy fruit (and now yoghurt) come after the mush.

I’ve been persisting with the mush up until now, because she won’t eat veges and meat as finger food. But now she is turning her nose up at the mush and just asking for other things (mostly fruit). There are also quite a few other things she won’t eat – ie rice, noodles, pasta, and lots of things (like bolognaise sauce) that would make it easier to transition to eating family meals.

I have started letting her get away with not eating the veges, and doing things like squashing the mush onto a cracker to get it into her, and making it into balls that she eats as finger food, and letting her feed herself the mush (which doesn’t always work). I’ve also been moving on to fruit and yogurt when she won’t eat the mush.

So am I getting us into bad habits? Should I not offer her pudding until she has eaten her meat and veges? Do I need to persist in offering her veges as finger food and other more grown up/ normal food? Is she too young to worry about this stuff, and I should go with the flow?

Any help most appreciated, and sorry for the novel!

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if i have this right and she is one almost then i think you need to get her off the mush... i would offer her more finger foods, but if she is eating lots of fruit then i wouldnt worry too much about the quantity of veges. but she needs to get used to food that isnt mush.

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I just keep offering it to Tom and still follow up with fruit/yoghurt so that he has a full tummy.  I cant bring myself to starve him before bed time.  I also try and get veges into him at lunch time.  I dont fight him but if he wont eat them himself, I offer them by feeding him (and sometimes it works better if it comes off my plate).  As long as he eats some I am happy.
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sometimes during dinner, Ella lets me knows that she wants dessert (usually custard,yoghurt or fruit)....so I usually give to her, and then eats the rest of her dinner afterwards.

I read somewhere (I can't remember where) that some toddlers have different eating habits to adults and like to have dessert in the middle of their meal and sometimes you should just go along with it and respect that they are individuals and like things to be different. As long I am feel that Ella is eating enough veges & meat then I am pretty happy to follow her lead.

 

In terms of offering more 'grown up' type food, once Ella turned 1 we started eating our dinner before she went to bed and she sat at the table with us and picked at our food (essentially having a 2nd dinner). I found this was a great not stressful way of introducing new foods & textures to her.

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Have you tried things like chicken nuggets, fish fingers, or things like that? I have been feeding Oli tinned baby food (the Little Kids range) but whilst I am feeding him, I put the finger food onto his tray and let him help himself. Also have you tried the sweeter veges - Oli LOVES cucumber, and little chunks of kumura, but I have also been trying him on those little cherry tomatoes.

 

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Daniel started doing this and we simply stopped giving dessert. He very rarely gets dessert these days but eats all his meat and veges no probs because he's realised thats all hes getting. I give those desserty type things as snacks instead during the day or at lunch when I just pop whatever finger foods I think of on his tray
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Interesting - thanks everyone. Sounds like there are a few more tricks I can try.

Tonight I put some cauli, brocolli and carrot on her tray first, and she wouldn't even try it! I got some nice (crap and gluten free) sausages today, and she ate that. I haven't tried chicken nuggets and fish fingers because she is still gluten free.

When she saw that desert was still not forthcoming, she ate some avocado and tomato, and some cheese. Then I tried giving her the cauli broc, and carrot with white sauce on and that was a no go again. I guess we'll work this thing out!

She has a range of finger food for lunch rather than mush. I had plunket today, and she said just to do what ever works, and to hide veges in other things etc.

I also talked to a friend today, and she said if her DD wouldn't eat her dinner she would give her a bath, and then offer her dinner again after - that usually worked.

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Spencer quite often won't eat brocolli etc as seperate pieces but will eat say a bit of brocolli with some kumara and a bit of meat all in one spoon full. I still half mush his food when he is being spoon fed, so peas and corn are whole but things like potato, kumara, pumpkin are mushed. I find it easier to get meat into him if it is mixed with the mushed food and then he still has some of the solid food as well.

To try and get other veges in her you could make your own vege burgers that she could eat as finger food or practice self feeding with (might be a bit young for that). You could try spring rolls as well, not an everyday food but most babies seem to love them and they do have a few veges in (just check brand cos some are full of crap).

The other thing you could give a try is those watties sauces that make the veges a bit more interesting, if you try an organic shop near you you should be able to pick up a gluten free gravy as well. I got one once but can't remember the make, it had onion in which doesn't agree with Spencer so we only used it twice.

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What you're doing doesn't sound that bad to me. The only thing I would do different is to offer "courses" in different meals: eg she might have a bolognese (only) for lunch and then a custard/fruit for afternoon tea.... just a bit more spread because her tummy is still so little.

Does she like finger food? It's probably time to have as much ff as you can, e.g. soft boiled veges/meat (fish fingers, small pieces of chicken, etc), pasta - I know you said she isn't into rice and pasta much but have you tried macaroni cheese on her? I haven't seen that one fail
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If Caleb sees desert (fruit or yogurt) he turns his nose up at his veges so I don't always give it to him and definately don't bring them out together like I used to. We've started offering him the fruit or yogurt for morning/afternoon tea and just meat/vege mash for his main meal. If he's still hungry he gets something like a vegemite sandwhich.

We started him on bolognese etc by mixing it into his vege mash and will slowly increase the strength until he is eating what we do. I find he is pretty conservative with his food and usually turns his nose up at anything new. I have to offer him new foods several times before he'll eat them. You may find you have to continue to offer them to Anyssa for awhile before she starts eating them.

Caleb will eat little pieces of veges off my plate when we eat our dinner but not as finger foods in his highchair.

Personally I wouldn't offer highly processed foods like chicken nuggets or fish fingers to a one year old. There are plenty of healthy alternatives.
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