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    Posted: 04 October 2008 at 12:52pm
Hi guys,

I have been reading your posts over recent days and have taken great comfort to know i'm not alone.

I conceived on clomid after a very long history of endo. We fell pregnant straight away and everything was going so well with rising hcg's etc, went for my first scan at 7w5d, and couldn't find heartbeat, but weren't too worried at that stage as they thought i may have ovulated late and could be only around 6w.

went back for the second scan last week 8w5d and confirmed that there was no hearbeat. Had a d&c a couple of days later. We are so devastated.

we were so ready for little monkey and had been through so much to get there. we don't know what to do in terms of ttc again, as it's taken so much out of us.

i just LOVE the comments about us being young and can try again. Where's the sensitivity chip!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote WestiesGirl Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 October 2008 at 1:04pm
Jakinty Im so sorry to hear of your loss . I know exactly how you feel and I was pretty much the same as you, I had a scan at 7w3d after a week of bleeding and not knowing if my wee angel was ok or not.

My thoughts are with you
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So sorry for your loss. Unfortunately stupid comments seem to be part of a m/c, people just don't know what to say unless they have been there themselves and end up saying the absolute last thing you want to hear instead.

When I was unsure when to start TTC again a friend of mine said that she had waited until she felt that she was trying to make a new baby rather than replace the one she had lost, I thought that was good advice so i followed that. Although we got pregnant the first month of trying and that did throw up some problems as I thought I would have time getting used to trying again and wasn't quite expecting to be pregnant again so soon.
Also I think it helps to try and be in a good head space as the first 12 weeks and especially getting past when you lost baby first time can be very stressful.

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When we fell pregnant, we focused all our energy on being positive and looking after the baby that the thought of m/c never entered our heads.

If we try again, i imagine those 12 weeks would be very hard. How do you get yourself into a good head space? What's worked for others?
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I bought a book that was recommended to me by one of the ladies on here called life after baby loss. I found that really helpful, if nothing else it was reassuring to read that the thought and emotions I was having were totally normal.
Coming on here for support helps as well as there are, unfortunately, quite a few of us who have been through it.

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I read Life After Baby Loss after my first post-loss pregnancy (which resulted in the gremlins) and I sooo wish I had read it before I got pregnant again. It is a great resource, reassuring and straightforward and NZ-relevant.

I agree with Cuppatea re: getting into a good headspace too. I fell pregnant with the gremlins 6 weeks post-d and c and whilst at the time I thought the only thing that could *fix* the pain was getting preg again, in fact there's no such thing as *fixing* it and I lost my entire pregnancy and the first 8 mths of the gremlins lives to crippling anxiety. I don't regret having them for a second but I can't help but wonder if I'd waited longer and let myself heal better if things might have been easier.

I've just come thru another pregnancy and whilst I was still anxious to some degree I managed it much better and was able to bond with baby much easier and sooner coz I had addressed the issues surrounding the m/c.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Jakinty Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 October 2008 at 12:19pm
it definitely throws up a whole lot of issues. Every day my husband and I are discovering new emotions and feelings about it all. It's a personal sort of grief, because no one knew the baby, except for a few people, so it's harder to acknowledge beyond our immediate circle.

One day i want to try again, another I can't even imagine replacing little monkey.

I'm off to the book store at lunch to find some reading material. Thank you for all the suggestions. might have to stop and get some more retail therapy along the way!

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Hi Jakinty, I have found this website fantastic. So many of the ladies here have been through what you are going through and just having a place to vent and ask questions has really helped me. I have had 3 mc in the last year. the first one was at 10 wks and my husband and I always knew it could happen. You can probably read my other posts throughout this forum as I had a number of dramas - medical procedure which didnt work and then 5 months later a d&c. I fell preg again straight away and mc at 5 wks. then fell preg a couple of months later and mc again at 5 wks. So now I am on my frst cycle of clomid. I am VERY nervous and assume next pregnancy I will be a wreck. People I feel do not respect mc and some peoples comments are soo hurtfull, you are young, at least you can get preg, it wasn't meant to be etc. People who have been through mc know what it feels like. It is a loss, it is sad and it hurts big time. I have had soo many down days, tears, anger etc then the next day I am fine. It is the biggest emotional rollarcoaster and I feel my life has been put on hold! Anyway, I am hoping this clomid works and I get pregnant, then I will start to focus on positive and carrying the baby to full term. I wish you every success and at the end of the day you need to do what is right for you and your hubby and noone else. Keep us posted with your progress.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Jakinty Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 October 2008 at 9:10am
Thank you for your kind words. I have read your story and my heart went out to you. You must be incredibly strong! I have a long history of endo - my latest lap was in June this year and we feel pregnant pretty much straight away on the clomid after. Now i am worried it will come back between now and when we try again. I am so frustrated that it is never simple. I'm sure you feel the same way too!

I get what you mean about not respecting the mc. I've told some people who haven't reacted in at all, and some who just go oh well!

Have you been referred onto a recurrent mc group at your local hospital???
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Hi Jakinty,

Cuppatea and Maya pretty much said what I wanted to say.

I too went for an early scan only to discover no heartbeat.

I totally understand the emotional rollercoaster and how insensitive and down right stupid people can be when dealing with miscarriage.

I also read the book that was mentioned and it really helped me. I miss by baby everyday, I would be 26 weeks now and I wonder what life would be like if things had been different. But.... I am 13 weeks today with what appears to be a healthy baby.

DH and I have been very cautious but also (with the exception of a few minor breakdowns on my part) know that there is nothing we can. If this baby is not for this world, then that is what shall be. That said, we would of course be devasted to loose another child, but we can accept it now. I dont know if that makes sense.

It is such a horrible experience to go through, if anything the one thing I would say was the best piece of advice I was given it was " allow yourself to feel whatever you feel and dont let anyone tell you not to'

You will know when you are ready again hun.

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Hi Melnel,
Was wondering how soon after your mc did you get pregnant again?
Ive just had a mc at 6 weeks and the doc has said to wait 3 months and i so cant wait 3 months to ttc again?
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Hey Sunshine - I know some girls on this site got pregnant right away without even a period and are now in their 3rd trimester! Other took a few months 3 or 4. I think they say 3 months is more on an emotional level rather than a physical one. Well that is my undertanding anyway.

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am so tempted just to go for it but am oetrified the same thing will happen again. DH is very keen to start trying.
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Well its really up to you guys - My DH didnt want to try again for a while so we have waited 5-6mths.
Me - well i really wanted to start right away but also really pretrified - I still am but i did see some advice from these knowledgable girls:
You will know your ready when the longing for a baby far out weighs your fear of losing another..... Something like that and i think for me I am now at that stage but 6 months ago i would not have been even tho i thought i was IYKWIM!
Take care sunshine and do what feels right - they do say to wait atleast one cycle but that is really for dating and i spose to make sure its all cleansed out.

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thanks. im thinking i should wait at least one cycle - i just dont feel ready yet emotionally. such a rollercoaster and an unexpected one. met a girlfriend today and she told me she was 9 weeks pregnant - was guttered as we would have been about a week apart. argggh life can suck sometimes...
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lurker in

Ive never had a miscarriage , and I hope I never do , I don't know if im strong enough to deal with it ...I think you ladies are amazing.
I don't understand how people can be callous (sp) about it, as if it doesnt matter ....no matter how long you have them for , your baby is your baby from day one , and forever and ever more , whether they are on earth with you ,or angel babies , im sorry people have been hurtful to some of you .
My friend had a mc a couple of years ago, and people said the same thing to her "its ok , you can try again ,your still young " and she would reply "yes, i know that....but we wont be getting THIS baby , and that is what hurts "

Big hugs to all of you , I think your so brave .
And im sitting here a big blubbery mess.

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