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    Posted: 08 February 2012 at 7:45pm
Hi guys, not sure if im in the right section, but i have been watching birthing videos and in the natural birth ones the mother is screaming and crying and carrying on, and in the epidural birth the mother is chatting away and pushing with no tears or cries or anything!

Has anyone had an epidural before? What do you feel? Is there heaps of pain? Or hardly any? Im not trying to sound like a baby but it just relieved me so much watching the video with the epidural.
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I didn't have an epidural and I wasn't screaming and crying and I was induced...I could get up and walk around during the labour and straight after the birth. Your body is made to give birth, it knows what to do...you just have to trust your body and go with it.

I was really nervous about the whole labour and birth side of things when I got pregnant and ended up reading a Hypnobirthing book and practiced some breathing and visualisation exercises...it really helped.


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Hmmm, well, I did quite a lot of my labour without the epi and although there was pain I certainly wasn't screaming and yelling!

I then had an epi (bubs was posterior so it was expected I would be in labour for quite some time), I could still feel my body fine though they would not let me walk around (which I'm told helps with the pain) I could also still feel the contractions and knew when to push etc, in my particular case I could still feel pain, the edge had been taken off, but that may be because of the instructions I gave to the anesthetist!

I would have preferred to give birth without the epi but my sons position made it difficult - this time I'm hoping bubs co-operates!

To be honest I wouldn't watch birthing videos - it may colour your expectations and scare you whereas like Jaune says, your body is made to give birth and you need to trust your body.
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Yep, I didn't either and no screaming or crying here.

Please keep in mind that once you have any kind of intervention it can start off a string of things. I liked that it was just me, DH and midwife with me during delivery. I gave birth in water which helped heaps and I would not have been able to do this if I had an epidural.
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I might be a little different to some of the other posters. I went as far as I could before resorting to pain relief.  My contractions started at 2-5 mins apart - so not much waiting around before getting to the hospital.  I laboured for about four hours before starting the gas.  I found this really helped.  The contractions got steadily bigger - as much as I could cope with.  A few hours later I got an injection of pethidine.  This may have taken the edge off, but I didn't really notice much difference.  I did feel calmer, but kind of drunk.  I might not do this next time.

After a while I needed further pain relief - I got an epidural after some waiting.  Remember that these are not always available on call - the anaesthetist on call may be in surgery etc.  I must have been in a fair bit of pain - I don't remember the injection going in, or any pain from the needle - and that's saying a lot for me! 

There is absolutely no shame in taking what pain relief you need if that is what you choose for yourself.  Some people have better tolerance for pain than others, some have more pain fullstop.  Do your research beforehand - make sure you know what options you are comfortable with.  Perhaps make a birth plan - but know that things rarely go to plan. 

The epidural didn't take long to work, and I remember willing my legs to move (they wouldn't).  It was blissful to be free of the pain.  I can't remember feeling contractions, although they did give me a fairly good dose with the epidural.  I'm glad I had it as I later needed an emergency CS and things were already in place.

Each to their own I say - there are ones who birth totally naturally and you might one of them, but then again you've got to do what's right for you. 

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I also had an epidural and it really is a personal decision. I was in quite a bit of pain and with each contraction was a wave of nausea and/or dry retching. I was also awake most of the night with contractions and it was blissful to have the relief. I managed to get some rest before ultimately ending up with a c-sect since DS was in completely the wrong position. I might also say that I had no specific birth plan and we went with whatever was necessary. Have a chat to your midwife and see what she says.
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I've had both experiences... 2 natural, totally drug free births that I look back on fondly.

... then... My last birth was a bit more complicated with an induction drip so strapped down with monitors and then baby spun around during labour. I had been having gas and then at that point the anaesthetist was called. It was a long hour of waiting for her to arrive (it had never occurred to me that you could be waiting hours for an epi!). I was in pain and I needed that epidural but don't think it comes without cost... it fricken hurt being put in, it only worked down one half of my body so we had to play around for a while to get it to balance out and after the birth my back felt like it has been kicked by a donkey. There are also many long term side effects that can come with an Epidural.

I would swap that last labour with all the drugs for a "normal" labour drug-free anytime.

I guess everything comes at a cost and it is up to you what you feel you are comfortable with. Maybe set a little goal for yourself of handling the first part of labour and seeing how it goes etc etc. You might be surprised, if your labour is straightforward and you calmly let it happen and stay active you might be amazed at what your body can do (and yes- your body creates all sorts of crazy amazing natural painkillers on its own if you labour naturally)

and stop watching those birthing vids if they make you anxious ;P
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I liked things silent when I was in labour so def no screaming or crying here! But everyone is different and I have quite a high pain threshold so what hurts for you might not hurt for me iygwim.

I did get induced towards the end and opted for an epi so I could have a quick nap before pushing. Epi wore off for pushing and I still wasn't screaming/crying.

I didn't top my epi up at all so I was walking around about 30-60 mins after the birth and having a shower!
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After a long labour and pethidine, i was going to have c section. They went to put epi in and they tried and tried, got others to try and when it was nearly in i had horrible shooting pain in legs. they ended up putting me under. I wouldnt rely on thinking u are going to have this or this, things change. Good luck




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I wish I had never watched a birthing video! Before DS1 I watched one and like you it really upset me because she was in so much pain (having a natural birth). It was shown to me in the course of an antenatal class (ie not my choice) and I got so upset I had to leave the room and stood outside crying because it was so horrendous. Why do people make these videos and worse, make others watch? We all know labour/birth hurts, do we need to go further? The purpose was supposedly to show us how you can get through it naturally without drugs but why anyone would want to replicate this woman's experience I don't know!!

Anyway - after a few weeks I got over it and was determined to have a natural birth. Unfortunately it just didn't work out that way. I had an unusually long labour - it was six days, during which time the contractions were never longer than 15 mins apart and usually 3-5 mins. (Don't freak out, it was a very unusual situation in another country - here they would probably have intervened after a couple of days if not progressing).

The pain was manageable. By that I mean it was obviously unpleasant but I was coping without any form of pain relief. But after over 100 hours I was totally strung out from exhaustion and it was obvious that nothing was going to happen until I got some rest, so I had an epidural in order to get some sleep. Having the epidural put in was really unpleasant - I was having contractions but you have to stay completely still while lying on your side which isn't the best position to be in while having a contraction. I managed it but I was so scared that I was going to move inadvertently and end up paralysed (probably a silly fear but I was in a weird space by that point!). To make matters worse the anaesthetist put it in the wrong place and had to do it all over again.

However, once it was in it was a wonderful release and I immediately fell asleep for about an hour. I could still feel & move my legs, I probably could have walked around if not for the fact that I had to stay on the bed as the baby was being constantly monitored.

The plan was to let the epidural wear off for the actual delivery but DS had other ideas and was delivered all of a sudden while it was still in effect. So I didn't feel any pain at all, just pressure/movement. Having spoken to others who have had epis which wore off before delivery I understand that although it is obviously painful, it's much more bearable during the pushing phase because you are pushing with the pain, IYKWIM, rather than just sitting and bearing it. But I can't comment on that personally.

Am now 37 weeks with DS2 and my birth plan basically says that there is no "plan". I really hope to have a natural birth but I now realise that it's best to keep an open mind rather than be disappointed. At this point I think I would only have an epi again if being induced (my OB recommends this) or if (touch wood) I'm in labour and without sleep for longer than 2/3 days which my OB promises me won't be allowed to happen again!

Sorry for long reply - upshot is that epis definitely have advantages but also disadvantages too.
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I tried pethidine, (which I had decided I wasn't going to do beforehand) but I was in heaps of pain and the anethesthatist wasn't available. While I have heard from other people they though it was really effective, it just made me feel really out of it and still in pain. I couldn't use the gas either as I had really bad nausea and it made me really sick.

Eventually I got the epi and was so glad I did, and I think in the same circumstances I would definately do it again. My baby was also posterior which is apparently a lot more painful. With the epi I had a pretty relaxing 12 hours when otherwise I would have been in a lot of pain, I had a bit of a rest. When it came time to push I could feel when I was having a contraction but it didn't hurt. I didn't even really feel them put the needle in, but its really hard to sit still for them to put the needle in while having contractions!

I agree with what the others said in that you should just see how it goes on the day. You may find you can manage the pain, but if not there's always other options.


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I had an epidural after several hours of labour. DS was posterior and his head was stuck against my pelvis which made it painful. I literally had to beg my mw for an epidural because i knew something was wrong. Once i had it they realised i was in trouble and there was only blood coming out of the cathider (which you automatically get when you have an epidural) In the end it saved my bladder and possibly my life.

I dont mean to scare you just that you need to b e strong in your convictions. Educate yourself on it and if you want be clear in your intentions

It is a personal choice. If you are doing fine without it go ahead without. If this is your first baby you wont know how your body deals with labour. You may be one the luck ones who can deal with that pain and have a trouble free labout. If not dont be afraid to have it you just need to give birth you sont have to be a hero!
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I had an epi and couldn't feel a lot while pushing....but that didn't mean I was laughing and enjoying things just because the pain wasn't there. Pushing is seriously hard and tiring even without the pain ( I'd have preferred the pain at that point, I found it frustrating not being entirely sure when to push etc). But up to that point the epi helped when I had very intense pain following being induced and I'm happy with the decision...I'd love a drug free birth this time but if it's not the way it rolls out, so be it.
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I just wanted to say in response to Missjens post- you don't always automatically have a catheder put in with an Epidural (I didn't)
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Originally posted by Kupukupu Kupukupu wrote:

I just wanted to say in response to Missjens post- you don't always automatically have a catheder put in with an Epidural (I didn't)


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Just wanted to add that I slso had an epi after long labour that wasn't progressing very quickly. No catheter for me either, and I could get up and go to the loo (with help) and also move around on the bed for pushing. Was on hands and knees for the most part.

Still felt an awful amount of pressure and quite a bit of pain although I'm sure it had the edge taken off.

I would have an epi again, providing they kept it at a level I could still move around with.
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I'll also add that I had 2 attempts at epi's during labour, both of which unsuccessful and caused nerve damage/pain that was worse than the contractions... could just be my body, could have been the 12 yr old administering it, but needless to say i'm forever greatful there was no long lasting problems with the nerves.
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Yeah they stuck my epidural in the wrong place - into the dura which can cause the spinal fluid to leak out- any tiny change in the pressure of spinal fluid can cause massive problems- like AbzandH said, pain, nerve damage, epidural headaches- which can be so severe u cant move for days so cant feed/care for your baby and have to be hospitalised. I was told this after the fact, and had to stay 4 days 4 monitoring but luckily had no major problems.
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Sorry I meant they put a cathider in if they are taking you to a csection


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I had an epi and plan to do it again.
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