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    Posted: 03 April 2006 at 3:07pm
Ok ladies, nows the time that i have a bit of a whinge. well not really. but today, i sat down and figured out our estimated budget once i begin working. I found that with my probable starting wage, added to mikes current wage, we will not be eligible for any daycare subsidy apart from the 9 hours a week available to everyone. we will also lose accomodation supplement, and our family assistance will go down to $80 a fortnight. we are currently claiming living costs off my student loan of $150 a week, so that will stop also. which means that in all reality, I will be going off to work each and every day, to pay $300 worth of childcare, and we might not even break even with what we are currently getting right now.

so, other ladies that work full time - do you have any other ways of doing things so that the daycare $$$ isn't so much. I have thought of booking them in for mornings only, so that someone picks them up for the afternoons, and that way Paris could enrol in Kindy. However, i seem to have a lack of suitable people that could take the kids - while mum seems the obvious choice, i have seen what she was like after leaving Ayja with her for a few hours - and would definately NOT feel comfortable with leaving her for the whole afternoon, every day etc. even more so with adding PAris to the mixture, and remembering that mum also has my nephew to take care of as well.

argh, i spose it all just felt like everything was fruitless. all this hard work to get nowhere really - possibly worse off even.. until Paris starts school and daycare cost goes down.   CAn definately see this NOT helping the arguement for having another baby.. in which case we might qualify for more but then the cost is more too.

am not complaining as such at not getting subsidies any more, as we will be better off than a fair few people, and i beleive it should go to those who need it most.. believe me, we have been there for the last 5 years!!

all i can say is ARGH!

hey, also, what is the usual rate of tax deductions? probably ano brainer question but i seriously don't know. at least them i can estimate what the deductions from my wage would be so i can figure out if we are gonna be able to live.
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Well that sucks Janine. I think that up to 38,000ish the tax rate is 19.5% and you also need to deduct student loan repayments off that (10% of earnings over 17,000ish). I think that is all correct. Hope it helps. Sorry dont have any suggestions for you...
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Hey Chick, are you sure you will only get $80 a fortnight family assistance? we aren't entitled to ANY childcare help, not even the nine hours, and we will be getting $230 a fortnight?

I hope things work out for you? Have you thought about switching care?

I really don't have any suggestions, but I hope it all works out for you!
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do your childcare center do drop offs and pick ups for kindy james,s one does and its $2 a day and also do u get half price for having more then one child at the center hope this helps
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we do get a small discount for having more than one kiddie there, the main thing for me is that because i may have to do day shift OR night shift at any given time, and my hours aren't really set ones each week - i have to have them booked in between the hours of 8 and 5 even if they aren't going to use it.. therefore i pay for that, which is kinda sucky.

With the family assitance, i used the calculator on the IRD website.. and i just assumed that the 9 hours was for everyone, however i might look into that - actually i think it only may have been for children age 3 and up. hhm.
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The nine hours isn't for everyone (sorry!), before I was studying/working when I didn't NEED to put Quinn in daycare we were entitled to nine hours, now that we need the extra help we cannot get it!

I have recently found there is another benefit thing called family support which you are entitled to if you (or your partner) works more than thirty hours a week, something else to look into, phone IRD. We have never really qualified for anything but we get $40 a week tho this!

Re the childcare thing: why not look into something like PORSE (homebased childcare). I looked into being a homebased carer for a short time, each person is allowed four kids at their home - 2 over and 2 under 2, this included their own. If i remember correctly the set rate is set by the individual but that price is per family, not per child (i spose this is an individual thing tho). Might be cheaper with two kidlets? And also seeing as you have a private arrangement then you should only have to pay for the hours you want as opposed to paying for the full week?
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I think there is more funding going into ECE, making it free for kids aged 3 and 4 from 2007. Don't know the details properly but I'm sure Paris would fall under this.
Childcare subsidy has just had another adjustment, did you factor that in? (Though I'm sure you did, you seem like you'd have all your bases covered!)
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I was thinking of something like that, but have also looked into being a Nanny through them a while ago - pre-nursing days. I am unsure that I would find someone willing to have such irratic times though - i mean from what i can tell - sometimes i may need them for a full 4 days of day shifts, and then the next week if i am on nights then it might only be 2 or 3 hours.. sometimes i may not even need them at all?

I now see why a heap of nurses that are mummies work the night shift only (dunno if i can just go in there requesting that straight off the mark)
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i friend of mine just rung and told me that laubour have bumbed up familiy surport and dpbs not sure by how much but every little bit helps also the working for familiys is spose to go up its spose to start around the 1st off this month will have to look into this   
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I have a similar dilemma Janine, and it's driving me mad. I only just squeaked in for paid parental leave - really had to chase them hard to make sure everything got done on time.

I was also initially told I would have to return to work straight away at a full 40 hours a week as per my contract, and that they could not hold my job open for me any longer than the 14 weeks.

While this is true, I didn't think it was very supportive and I am not in favor of putting my baby into full time care at that point (and it's not just about the cost for me). But again I pushed, and brought the issue up again more recently, and now that there is a restructure underway throughout my part of the company they said they might be able to offer me a return to work part time for 3 months.

Right now, they are apparently re-writing my contract to reflect this, so we shall see how it goes. If it turns out well I will only be doing 3x 5 hour shifts, with the ability to be "on call" for others (with the option of saying no).

Anyway, the real kicker is that we are not entitled to *ANY* assistance whatsoever, apart for the 14 weeks maternity leave - even on a single income. And I'm 99.9% sure - I *might* give the IRD another call to triple check, but am pretty sure I won't get anywhere.

We can get by on a single income though, for up to a year - and I might still take this option, even though it would me resigning from my job and having to look for a new one further down the track.

It's frustrating because it's pretty much a wait and see what happens kind of thing, but y'all know I'm not the patient type !
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oh jax thats suxs about your job not coming to the party make sure u do what is right for your family cause everyone is diff good luck
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I have just remembered now that you can claim childcare costs as a tax rebate at the end of the year - so that's a little bit better - knwoing that we can get money back at the end of the year - i told mike that once we start claiming it back - we'll just get the rebate and stick it on the daycare bill so it's always in credit! lol, maybe then our overal weekly costs might fall after the first year, and by the 2nd year Paris will be at school - Wholly crap that's cary.. 2 years till my little girl turns 5!
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ohh scary its only two months till james is 1 sounds like u have got it all sorted
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If you are both working, you will qualify for a childcare subsidy for the number ofhours you are employed. It is the AMOUNT of the subsidy that is affected by your income not the number of hours. So if you are earning more, your rate of subsidy decreases until eventually there is nothing left. Have a chat to WINZ about it, as they deal with teh Childcare Subsidy.

Also, Anna is right, they have a new In-Work payment for families where one/both parents work a minumum of 30 hours combined per week. It's a set amount per child so should bump you up a bit, but they only give it to you if you ask - it's not automatically calculated.

Hope this helps. I am having a major freak out at the thought of putting twins in daycare- $80 a day of which only $30 is subsidised. So may have to look at a nanny somewhere down the track as it may work out cheaper overall.
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I'm Back!! (sorry had internet probs and I have been working full time for the past few weeks!!)

Anyway - I had a hunt around childcare places and Arna goes to a community based one and it is $3.50 an hour and I think we can get 90c an hour off through Working for Families but as my hours are erratic (sometimes I work 40 hours sometimes 25) We are keeping a track of everything and claming back.
Another childcare place I went to to enquire was $5 an hour and was no where near as good at the community one - they offer morning tea and afternoon tea and take the kids on trips (with our permission) and is really great in there, where the one that was $5 you had to provide everything...
You may have the girls in a childcare place you like and I'm not sure if PN has a community based care but suss it out!

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I just found this on Tax Codes...

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have you thought about sharing a nanny?   i don't think WINZ will subsidize this, however, if you aren't entitled to the subsidies anyway, shouldn't make much differnece
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Starting to panic a bit now, work has finally rewritten my contract to include the return to part time work after my maternity leave finishes, but I STILL haven't really gotten around to finding daycare for bubs...
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I would suggest looking into in Jax. I was looking for daycare for Jake and Taine for three weeks in June. i started looking in Feb and actually found it VERY difficult. the MOE has guidelines about ho0w many teachers are needed for under twos. Consequently the under-twos area is smaller and in demand. Do it now, and then after you find some places, look up their Education report on www.ero.govt.nz to make sure they aren't dodgy.
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yeah it is hard to find good daycare for under 2 i was lucky i went on a waiting list for middleton childcare and only had to wait 3 months which is pretty good but hes only in part time
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