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    Posted: 06 June 2011 at 3:38pm
64 million dollar question right?!?! And I'm sure the answer is different for everyone, but what I'm particularly interested in knowing is when those of you chose to have #2 when you had a particularly challenging #1??

DH and I have really struggled with parenting, particularly as DS is challenging, however I feel that I have adjusted quite well now that DS is now 1 and whilst I'm not a natural mum, I know DS pretty well now and I cope an awful lot better than I used to. DH however does not cope so well. He is an A-MAZING dad and helps out HEAPS around the house, but he just really struggles with the crying - still!!!! Crazy I know but he has a tough time with it. Plus he has a tough time with not having the spare time he used to have to pursue all his many extra curricular activities.

So deciding when to have #2 is a tough decision. DH has days when he thinks we should have like a 3 or 4 year age gap but I'm not keen on that at all. I'm 31, he's 39 so we're not spring chickens anymore. I'm thinking about a 2.5 year age gap, maybe 3 years at a real push.

However I do also wonder how I will cope with 2? I mean I suppose you just do cos you've got no choice but sheesh if 1 is hard work, how on earth do you cope with 2 especially if #2 is just as challenging as #1??!?! Arghh!!!

Sorry for the rant - any advice appreciated! :)
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Our age gap is quite big, just over 3 years. We wanted smaller but its just how its worked out. And I must say that I'm glad I didn't have a smaller gap in the end. Daniel was of an age where he could take care of himself which has made life much much easier. He can feed himself, get dressed, take himself to the toilet, entertain himself. That has left a lot of time for Alex which has been a god send since Alex has been very challenging feed wise.
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I'm currently pregnant with #2 and DD will be 22 months when this one is born. I would recommend waiting longer between if you've got a boisterous first child. I have an absolute angel DD and i still find it very hard with the fatigue and not being able to run after her or bend over properly. I have HEAPS of support and a fantastically capable DH whose decision it was to have them 2 years apart. Even so, it's physically difficult... i'm going to go with 3 years between this one and the next one for sure!


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I have exactly 2 years between mine, and to be honest even though DS was an easy child I think 2 years or less is hard at first (the smaller the gap the harder!) as child no 1 is still not that independant. If we'd had another 6 months, so a 2.5yr gap, DS would have been so much more independant. In saying that - the smaller the gap, the sooner the two can play together and be friends! By the time DD got to 18 months they got on really well (most of the time!) and can entertain each other and he helps her with things too. My sis has a 3.5yr gap and that has been far easier as her DD has stayed in daycare 3 days (with the free hours) and does everything for herself now and is helpful with the baby.

If you're struggling with one, I'd say go for a bigger gap, cos it won't be any easier with two! (4x the work, not double!!)
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WOW thanks for all the advice guys - I really do think we'll have a bigger gap then after hearing all your comments. No rush ay!!!
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We had a very "easy" rather laid back first child, shes only just hit toddler stage of wanting to get into everything, and in saying that she definitely knows the boundaries even if she pushes them from time to time.

So we decided to go back for number 2 sooner rather than later!

DD will be 16-17mths when this one arrives and while I see it being a challenging year ahead I don't see it being terribly hard. I like the idea of close together, she won't ever remember what it was like pre-baby, and they can play together sooner rather than later.

I do think in your situation with a higher energy more demanding first child I can understand waiting a while! I'm really hoping to get another "easier" baby (good feeder/sleeper) again this time round!
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Yeah I reckon most people who have two close together must have had a relatively easy first one ay!!!
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Hi Speck8, I am very similar to your hubby I think! We have had a "challenging" 1st baby. He cried for the first 4 months, didn't sleep during the day, STILL doesn't sleep through the night and takes my all physically and mentally. I got PND and am still on medication for it. DH wants #2 ASAP, me, not so much I'm not sure I could even handle another one AT ALL let alone sooner or later. For me, I think a three year age gap when number 1 can go to kindy etc is something I would CONSIDER
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PS In order to have #2 you actually have to have S#X too haha
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I've got 21mths between #1 & #2.
DS1 had silent reflux not diagnosed till 4mths and before that no one got much sleep. He's a high strung little man and is a bit of work. Though I've got it easy as he's in daycare.
Anyhow, #2 is COMPLETELY different. Sleeps about as good now as DS1 did once he was medicated at 4mths.
I'd say a gap of 2 to 2 1/2 years would be right for me. That's what I'll be trying for next time (if DH can be convinced to have a next time)
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I found my 1st challenging, we have an 18m gap between my 2 and I found it so hard, I don't cope very well when they are newborns, so I think if I was to do it again I would have waited until DS1 was 18mo before trying for no.2 I would have like ds1 to be over 2. If we have another we won't try until ds2 is over 2.
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We had a very difficult time with #1,...always wanted 3 kids but when she was about 15months I really didnt think I would ever manage 2. She didnt sleep through til nearly 2 years, was still having lots of allergy related problems and I had bad pnd. Things did improve tho and we decided to try for #2,.. I was petrified how I would cope and of going through any of it again. DS was born when DD was 3.3yrs. The first 6 weeks were really   hard- she was really really naughty with me when we were alone and baby was awake- was great when baby was asleep. We had heaps of family support this time around tho which has totally made it so much easier. DS is a much more laid back kid, is healthy and Ive not had nd this time.
A 3+ year age gap means that #1 will most likely be out of nappys, be sleeping through, be in kindy, be able to help pick out babies clothes, bring u nappys etc, understand not to smother baby/throw things at it etc, and will need less carrying around when u are preg than a 1-2yr old would! I was also lucky that #1 was still having a day nap when I was reg which is awesome cos meant I could too. DS howevere is only 18months and having less than an hr daysleep so I can see him stoing that a lot earlier on than DD did.
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I have a 21 month gap between mine and it is bloody hard work tbh. I thought we would have 3 so rushed for the first 2, but it was so damn hard that enough is enough and no way am i having #3!!

I think that a 3year age gap would be ideal because then you have one toilet trained, mostly over the terrible 2's, they have some ability to monitor their behaviour and best of all they get 20 hours free. So your DS1 will be at kindy/preschool for some of the time and you can have some quality time with #2. And also you get all that great time with #1. I feel in a way that i let DS1 down by being so busy with my difficult #2 for the first 6 months. And i also feel like poor DS2 has never had any time with just me - roll on preschool starting next week - but he's 15 months now. I needed that when he was a baby.

Also the first 12 weeks of pregnancy was also really hard with a 12-15 mo to chase after despite feeling exhausted and sick.

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My 2 children are 2 years and 8 months apart, we lost one in between, but that age gap worked out pretty well. DD stills sleeps most days (she'll be 4 in a few months!) and having her out of nappies was great. She was at an age where she was very excited about her new baby and very kind, loving and helpful. That said, having 2 children is more work no matter what the age gap and it was a huge relief when she started kindy!

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Gosh this advice has been invaluable guys - thanks so much!!!! I'm definitely thinking a 2.5 - 3 year age gap is a goer for us!

Only bummer is we're now in Oz so don't get the 20 hours free daycare although there are other benefits here so would be good if I could keep DS in some sort of part time care when bubs is born (he's at daycare full time at the moment - half the reason I went back to work was cos I couldn't handle being at home with him!!!).

1st_Time_Preggies - that's awesome that your DH is still keen for another bub despite having a challenging first one!!! Can totally understand why you're not so keen but I reckon you'll come round!

I guess I also just wish DH was more keen.....I know that in time he will be but he's just so negative about it at the moment. Do any of you have DH's who are/were less than thrilled about trying for another??
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Honestly I would try really hard to Put it out of your head for a while. My DH doesnt like to really plan ahead and discuss things indepth until they actually happening. When I was getting stressed about when we would ttc, and DH wasnt wanting to talk about it, I ended up setting a date a few months down the track that I would next bring it up. That way I had a plan, and he wasnt getting pestered about it, and I wasnt getting stressed at his response. Worked for me!
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We have a just on 18 month gap between our two and my first is VERY challenging. It's been bloody hard, especially the first few months although now the baby is up and interacting with her sister more it's better lol. But I hear ya on the age thing. you're a bit younger than I was though so in your shoes I would also postpone it maybe even a year cos a small gap is hard when you have a difficult # 1.
Oh and our 2nd baby is much more relaxed (thank god), and came to be with us through not trying at all, but not preventing either iykwim?!

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I love my three year gap! My younger two adore each other (I have an older one as well - 11 year gap LOL)... We tried for a smaller gap, it didn't happen and I'm glad now! I do think 3 is a much more challenging age behaviour wise than 2 (well with my girls it has been) but they are also much more as well
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We will ahve a 2 year 7month gap between our two. I always said I wanted 2.5-3 years and despite us trying for 7 months both times I am now really glad the gap will be what I wanted.

My DH was also hesitant, parenting is bloody hard work and while we both still freak out about the arrival of the new one, we had decided early on that we didn't want an only child. I know it would be so much easier for us but I don't want DD to miss out on what we both had growing up with brothers and sisters.
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We have almost exactly a 2.5y age gap between our two. DS1 had silent reflux, lactose intolerance, food allergies, I had severe PND and psychosis and we had a really rough couple of years. I also had severe hyperemesis when pregnant so that was a factor we had to consider when we tried for #2. Turns out I didn't get hyperemesis or PND lol that was a big relief but in alot of ways #2 is more demanding - he was born clingy and spent his first almost 6m being a terrible sleeper til we broke that habit. It was great having DS1 that bit older and not requiring a ton of one-on-one care. DH was really reluctant to try for #2 after all the things we had to deal with after #1 but time and #1 becoming more idependent really helped and he's now almost keener than I am to have another!
We'll be going for a 2-2.5y gap between #2 & #3 and I think that's going to work really well for our family. GL working out what will work for you
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