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    Posted: 15 July 2010 at 7:58am

I wasn't sure whether to put this in first baby or toddler cos still not quite sure where Clodagh belongs at not quite 14 months old...but OMG her tantrums and whinginess!!!!  Is that normal???

She's normally a lovely social happy baby, especialy when we go out but at home jeez its a totally different story! She's clingy and whingy (esp later in the day when I assume she's tired), has nailed the fist clenching and throwing herself on her back and crying.....sigh. Why? How do I repsond? Atm if the tantrum is in response to her being told off (ie for touching tv plugs or whacking me on the head etc) then I tell her off. If it's for nothing that I can see I comfort or distract. Isn't this a bit young to be having paddys?  She seems to throw them at literally the drop of a hat


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Natalie started doing the exact same thing at just over a year They have actually improved alot over the last year, as her vocab and ability to communicate has improved. I think it's just a really frustrating age for them, when they start to realise they can 'do' things, but just can't communicate how they're feeling or what they want.

All we did was distraction, and other things you're already doing, so no really helpful advice on that front, sorry! Just persevere, and it really will improve!

As plunket said to us (and it was actually useful info this time! ), the 'terrible twos' actually starts at the beginning of the second year, so sounds like she's right on track
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thats about the age they start... distraction is a good tool, try and get her before she gets to the paddy stage...

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I tried to distract, if that didn't work I'd walk away. He found it much less interesting to do if no one was watching
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YIp my 14 month old has started this too.

If she is doing it over nothing (and always in the evenings when i want to put tea on i just ignore her and go about doing what i was wanting to do - she often gets up and follows me)

No fun throwing a tanty with no audience as has been pointed out!

Hubby thought i was causing it as she never did it to him and then one day she decided to throw a tanty for him - he whole heartly apologised to me LOL
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My 12 month old has started doing this as well. It's definitely hard to deal with, but I feel some sense of relief knowing that DS is not the only one. I'm hoping it will settle down a little once his vocab starts to develop. Fingers crossed
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I agree with everyone else, its definitely normal!
The clinginess and whinging is probably separation anxiety, Campbell did it too at that age. Appararently the separation anxiety peaks at around 15 months, then starts disappearing. I found it really frustrating when I wanted to get something done, but he wouldn't let me go and would whine constantly! It does pass though!
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Puts hands up

Cory has started throwing himself on the floor and crying whenever he cant get his own way or is super tired...and honestly i just walk away and ignore him.

And i have found that within about 10mins he stops and just goes and starts playing (the time is getting less and less btw)...and when he starts playing i will go back and start talking to him and tell him what a good boy he is for playing nicely etc etc

I am trying to practice the reward the good behaviour thing and it seems to be working.

Rhiannon did this at the same age too and i have to say she grew out of it pretty quickly


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Yup same here! Drives me nuts... the whining is doing my head in.. if I wasnt pg I think i could deal with it much better but I have no patience right now...



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Yep here too and DD is 16 months. It definitely started around your DD's age and (soory to say) is still going. I try and ignore the small paddys as she gets over it pretty quickly if no one reacts.

I find they are worse when she is tired, sick and/or teething. We still have major separation anxiety here, I read it peaks at 18 months- bring it on!
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Originally posted by Kazzle Kazzle wrote:



Cory has started throwing himself on the floor and crying whenever he cant get his own way or is super tired...and honestly i just walk away and ignore him.


LOL DD did this yesterday! She had a paddy at lunchtime, I put her on the floor in the lounge and returned to lunch with my Porse kidlet. She smacked her head into the floor and screamed a bit, then stopped and shuffled forward (towards the dining room) a few feet, then did it again. A few minutes later she shuffled forward again, until she could bang her head onto the vinyl and make a racket!!!

From memory the first real tantrum came before she was 1, and have been reasonably consistent since. I try and catch them before they start, and put her into bed (or distract) to calm down. I'll admit to BF-ing to stop the noise on more than one occasion, I suppose that's distraction, right?
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Yup same here Emmecat - feet stamping and the like. Has been going for a couple of months now. I ignore - walk away and she generally either follows me or gives up and finds something else to keep her attention! Or I use the distract method "look there's a cow"  which generally works too. Good luck - I am just hoping it gets less and less!

    
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*sigh* well at least I guess I know now it's 'normal' but OMG its doing my head in! And as well as this sort of behaviour she's also not sleeping during the night...we had been on a roll with going right through adn now she s back to sleeping maybe 4 hours tops then 2 hours up . Clodagh's also back to BF during the night- when we had night weaned her- and she's just so damn upset all the time and I don't know why (and I don't think she does either). Today I am barely functioning as I am THAT tired. And so is she!!

Thanks for your replies everyone, its good to get the feedback


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Sadly Taylah is still doing it at 18 months, she started about 14months also

Its horrible! No advice for you sorry but hang in there
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Yup happening here as well!

We walk away or ignore him if the tantrum is because he's been told off. To be honest, I've found changing my routine was easier than trying to get him to behave better - so now I have dinner organised earlier in the day, and take H for a walk or to the playground in the afternoons which is when he is at his worst. We get home in time for his dinner around 5pm and then we play with him and start his evening routine around 6.30.
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Originally posted by kebakat kebakat wrote:

I tried to distract, if that didn't work I'd walk away. He found it much less interesting to do if no one was watching



yeah , thats what I did too, and C had a grand total of 2 tantrums in her toddler years .
Tantrums aren't much fun if noones watching , I know, i've thrown a few myself





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Actually , come to think of it Ty has started this as well, if someone takes something off him that he shouldn't have , or tells him no , he wails and lies his head down on the ground.
But atm , tbh its so darn funny and cute that I almost enjoy him doing it ...I will get tough tho !





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has she got her first set of molars?
reminds me of my son around the time his were playing up at that age, not sleeping, short tempered etc
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Originally posted by Pistachio Pistachio wrote:

has she got her first set of molars?
reminds me of my son around the time his were playing up at that age, not sleeping, short tempered etc

Hmmmm we just clicked today that she might be getting them!  Right this second she is grizzling and kicking up bobsy di for DF while he tried to give her an early night...she is sooooooooooooooo  tired grrrrrr but won't sleep.  I bought her some teeth med homeopathic stuff today and it has been working well..much better than pamol last night

How long do the molars take to appear?!


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I am sorry to say that it can be quite a long road with molars.

If you are finding that pamol is not helping you may want to try nurofen for kids. It seems much more effective than pamol, esp with the big nasty molars. It also lasts longer than pamol 6 - 8 hours rather than 4. Good luck and I hope you all get some sleep tonight


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