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    Posted: 13 June 2010 at 9:14pm
Can anyone help me out here..

My 23 month old is driving us nuts.. Dakota has a 7pm bedtime but takes 1, sometimes 2 hours to settle down for bed.

Had to take cot away as she started to eat wood off the end and pulling of massive splinters. I feared she may choke on these so put her into single bed 3 months ago.

At first okay but now she gets up at least 10 - 20 times from 7pm - 9pm and recently we started to lock her in her room using a rope tied between 2 doors.

We are at our wits end not knowing if what we are going through is normal or not. Once asleep she's asleep till 7am..

I find myself getting very frustrated at bed times.. Am I not doing enough to tire her through the day.. Is she eating enough.. Is there anything anyone can suggest to maybe make this time pleasurable..?

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Edited to add, she screams and cries for a while - After about 10 minutes of this we go in and resettle her.. Once door shut it starts all over again...

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What is she like if you leave the door open? She will be screaming cause the door shutting is like rejection.

I used to stick a twig of lavender next to A's pillow, removing it once she was fast asleep cause too much expose can cause headaches.

Also maybe keep her up for a little longer for some one on one time?? Nice quiet cuddles?
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Why 7pm? It doesnt sounds like she is tired!
Not every kid is gonna need 12 hrs sleep at night. Isla has still never regularly slept more than 10 hrs at night. Even though 12 hrs would be great- getting her to go to bed nicely without all that stress for you all, but at a later time would be better.
We had the same with Isla- 2 weeks of the super nappy method of putting her back to bed everytime she came out without interacting didnt do a thing, sometimes it was over 2 hrs of doing that, I lost count at 50 times one night.
What worked was - when she came out the first time, put her back in her bed and said- if u come out again your door will be shut for5 mins,..when she came out again we would put her back in bed and say- you came out again, so now your door will be shut for 5 mins, and we shut the door. She screamed for 5 mins. We opened the door, and said- if u come out again your door will be shut again for 5 mins. We just kept doing that, and it was sooo much quicker and easier and worked well! We warned her all day that this is what we would be doing tonight.
We also put her bedtime back to 8pm, which ment we all enjoyed a happy time from 7-8pm, then she went to bed and would fall asleep pretty quick, rather than the horrible hr of putting her back/stress/screaming etc, and then going to sleep around 8pm. She was still going to sleep about the same time, but we got to have a nice evening with her, rather than that hr of stress.
She was younger than Dakota when we did that too.
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We did the sitting next to the bed but not looking at/interacting with technique (he was a bit older though, around 29 months when we had trouble). I would tuck him in, read him a story then at the end of the story give him a kiss but just stay sitting on the floor not looking at him until he settled to sleep, after a while I would just wait until he had settled down and was able to leave before he fell asleep and then slowly over about a month I was able to just do story, kiss and leave and he was back to settling himself. I think sometimes he was so over tired by bed time that he just couldn't calm himself down and me sitting there was enough to keep him in bed long enough to calm down and it stopped him getting out. On the few occassion he did climb out though I just put him back in calmly without talking to or making eye contact with him and then would sit back on the floor so he quickly learnt it wasn't worth the effort.

The other one that Nigel Latta suggested was to tell them if they stay in bed you will leave the door open but if they get out shut it. So they get out you put them back to bed and shut the door, they go crazy, you open the door and say "get back in bed and i will leave the door open" then if they get out again you do the same until they realise that it is better for them to stay in bed and have the open than have it shut. We never tried that as we shut the kids doors to keep the cats out and they don't seem to care about them being shut, guess cos they always have been.

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Yep that Niel Latta thing is what we did and it worked, and Isla was younger than Dakota. Still works now- if she comes out, we say we will shut the door if she comes out again, and she doesnt!
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In our house shutting the door is considered a good thing! lol!

Anyway is Dakota still napping? If she is then I'd consider possibly dropping it.
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Isla is 3 yrs 7 months and still has a day noap- she needs it. She just will not sleep past 6am, whatever we have tried- has always be the same. 10 1/2hrs and no more- if she goes to bed earlier she was earlier, if she goes to bed later, she still wakes by 6am and is just more tired.
Every kid is different, and has different sleep needs, just like adults! I bet we all go to bed at different times, most of us wake up at least once a night to pee, or go into a light sleep to roll over/get comfy/pull blankets up etc, and all sleep different lengths of time, and wake up at diff times in the morning!
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Nat has started taking 1-2 hours to go to sleep at night - we put her in at 7.30pm, but often she's not asleep till 9pm. However, she is happy, talking away to her toys (mostly) - if she gets upset, we'll go in and remind her that it's time to sleep now

She's sleeping 1-2 hours in the afternoon, but I just figure she's going through a phase where she still needs a nap, but that means she isn't tired at bedtime. I guess eventually she'll drop her sleep, and bedtime will become early again!

We've always shut her door, but she's still in the cot, so no worries about her getting out! It's actually quite nice atm knowing we can do stuff in the early evening, whereas we used to have to have her in bed no later than 7pm, or we would miss the 'window' and she would be a nightmare! Now if we don't get her into bed till 8.30, it's ok, and we find she does tend to go straight to sleep a bit later (but I need some sanity/assignment time in the evenings, so I'm not keeping her up longer for her sake! it does obviously help that she's happy playing in her cot though).
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yes my 25 mo son has started doing this too but doesn't cry, just reads and plays. since he's happy in there we leave him to it. With a newborn i need him to keep that day sleep so figure that this is the pay off. Saying that i really won't let him nap past 3pm now and bedtime is more like 7.30pm.

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Jake has never once got out of bed (still sits on the bed and yells for us when he wakes!!) so can't really help with what to do, but I also wondered about the day nap? Jake still has a big one (3 hours alot of the time) so he goes to bed at 8pm now - as hes just not tired earlier. Although we never had the coming out drama - he did go thru a phase of happily talking for ages in his room before going to sleep. I found that running him ragged during the day and the slightly later bedtime definitely helped.
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