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    Posted: 04 January 2009 at 7:28pm
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We were told by plunket (at her 2yo visit) if she wasn't saying 50+ words within a few months (can't remember the exact timeframe) that we were to get her hearing checked.  We weren't concerned about her language at all because like Lucas she comprehended a lot, she communicated really well without words, she responded to us when we spoke (so she was hearing us), and she was physically really advanced, plus she'd been a really early talker and could say a lot early on but at about 20 months she just stopped talking so we knew she could talk and hear cheeky wee girl just chose not to.  I still think it's because she was focussing on other stuff - all kids do develop differently.  She's now a chatty wee thing and you wouldn't know that she chose silence for all those months.
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Amy was quite late to talk and at her 2y plunket visit it came up. My PN is really good and gave me the details of ministry of ed speech therapist to call. She came to visit within a month and just watched Amy and did a bit of interaction with her. She said that Amy's hearing wasn't a problem and her comprehension was good. She gave me some info on when the different sounds start to appear and some exercises to work on. 7 months on she is never quiet (unless she is up to mischief!!).

There was an article in Treasures about speech and encouraging your toddler to talk - it gave most of the same exercises that we were given to try. Will have a look later to see which month it was. Can't remember if it was the last but one or the once before that. PM me if you want some more info.

Just remember that they all do thing in their own time and at different times - there is another thread going at the moment about being a late walker - there is so much for us to freak ourselves out about as mums


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I was just talking with a friend about this today. Boys are usually less interested in talking at that age (any age?!) than girls and her boy at 2yrs was saying just 8 words. He's coming up three now and talking about right for his age, everything kinda picked up really quickly after his birthday. Anyway it was just him and no side issues in that case.
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Jack was barely talking by two I think I was lucky if he could put two words together. Within a few months of turning two (and starting playcentre) he caught up and our paft lady said he was ahead for his age for a while there. I remember plunket telling me to just talk through everything I did with Jack and read heaps. He will most likely catch up on his own time.
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Andrew was like Lucas but that was down to his ears. Next time you are at your dr get them to check them for glue ear and also a tympogram (sp?) as that will tell you if it is his ears.

Not all boys a less interested in talking at any age, as at the moment I have 2 big talkers. Andrwe came into talking once he had his last lot of grommets put in. And Josh won't stop talking at the moment. Josh can say heaps at the moment even 3-4 word sentences - which scares me a bit.

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What is a tympogram exactly Becks? And has Josh had grommets put in, or just Andrew?

In a wacky way I'm kinda thankful he doesn't talk lol, my friends kid (nearly 2) was over on the weekend and she just wouldn't stop talking, repeating all the good AND bad words ...her mouth was motoring at a hundred miles per hour, I could barely keep up.Meanwhile my lil guy was nice and quiet and only interested in chasing her for cuddles and kisses. He's sooo affectionate, was so darn cute!
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They stick this machine in his ear. It is just like when they look into their ears but this reads them.

Josh hasn't had them in yet, he is getting them later this month.

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BuzzyBee, there are two distinct categories of skills with regards to communication -- speech and language. Speech is the production of sound, and language is the meaningful use of interactive communications. Your concerns might be about both of these issues, or just one. It's helpful to define which is your primary concern before investigating further.

There is a sequential development of speech sounds that most children follow, more or less in a similar pattern. Between the age of 1.5 and 3, they usually master p, m, h, n, and w sounds. Next comes b (between 1.5 and 4 years), then k, g, and d (between 2 and 4 years). t and ng usually come between 2 and 6 years, and f and y come between 2.5 and 4 years. Other sounds don't usually come until later -- r, l, s, ch and sh, z, j, v, th, and zh are all usually mastered after the age of 3. It might help you to go through the alphabet and note down which speech sounds your child can produce. If that's a bit difficult, try writing down all of the words your child says in a day -- that will show you what speech sounds your child is producing in a different way, and also give you an indication of their vocabulary. It's also a useful diagnostic tool for speech therapists, should you need to visit one.

Hearing difficulties can contribute significantly to delays in speech and language development. My daughter, who will be 3 next month, had diminished hearing in both ears due to recurrent ear infections and glue ear. This contributed to a delay in her speech. When she had grommets at the age of 18 months, we saw almost immediate significant improvement in her speech and language as well as in her listening skills. At "almost 3", she still doesn't say k or g sounds, but that's okay because developmentally, she's got another year to master those sounds before we start worrying about it.

If you're concerned about your child's speech or language, your best bet is to talk to your child's Plunket nurse at their 24-month Well Child visit. If you can't wait until then, go to your GP and raise your concerns. They can best help you if you take a little bit of time to make some notes on your specific concerns before you go. Such as, "My child doesn't seem to hear me until I am right in front of their face", "My child only says these 10 words and no others", "My child gets frustrated when trying to communicate with me, and uses gestures and grunts instead of words"... That sort of thing. Try to cast your mind back over whether they have had any colds or ear infections that the GP/Plunket nurse doesn't know about. Just create a basic picture of the issues surrounding your child's speech and language development so that it will be clearer to the experts what to look at.

Best of luck! I know how frustrating it can be when you're not sure if you should be worried or not, but I'm of the mindset that if you think there's a problem, it's better to get it checked out for your peace of mind. And as Jaycee said, they do things in their own time... Err on the side of caution if you're really worried, but try not to get too stressed out about it, and try not to compare your child to others too much as it'll drive you nuts.



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