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OHbaby! Forums : What if Birthcare is full? https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/ Copyright (c) 2006-2013 Web Wiz Forums - All Rights Reserved. Thu, 16 Apr 2026 22:53:27 +0000 Fri, 21 Nov 2008 09:23:03 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 12.05 360 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=22509 <![CDATA[OHbaby! Forums]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_images/web_wiz_forums.png https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/ <![CDATA[What if Birthcare is full? : Lanata wrote:I got my confirmation...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22509&PID=548913&title=what-if-birthcare-is-full#548913 Author: Nic01
Subject: 22509
Posted: 21 November 2008 at 9:23am

Lanata wrote:

I got my confirmation from NW that i'm booked in to have baby there, does that automatically book me into Birthcare or is that seperate as Birthcare do send out confirmations like the hospital does??

If you want to transfer to Birthcare, you also need to book in there, as they're separate to NW. Apparently Birthcare don't send out confirmations any more though - you just take it that you're booked.]]> Fri, 21 Nov 2008 09:23:03 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22509&PID=548913&title=what-if-birthcare-is-full#548913 <![CDATA[What if Birthcare is full? : Well we only have 2 chioces in...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22509&PID=548826&title=what-if-birthcare-is-full#548826 Author: 11111
Subject: 22509
Posted: 21 November 2008 at 8:06am

Well we only have 2 chioces in new plymouth Hospital or home would love something like birthcare. Would have been nice to stay away for a few day's to get a break, but certainlity not at the hospital the room's are small. As it was we were told they were really busy up stairs after I had Ems so we left hospital at 11pm.]]> Fri, 21 Nov 2008 08:06:42 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22509&PID=548826&title=what-if-birthcare-is-full#548826 <![CDATA[What if Birthcare is full? : I got my confirmation from NW...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22509&PID=548511&title=what-if-birthcare-is-full#548511 Author: Lanata
Subject: 22509
Posted: 20 November 2008 at 7:58pm

I got my confirmation from NW that i'm booked in to have baby there, does that automatically book me into Birthcare or is that seperate as Birthcare do send out confirmations like the hospital does?? ]]> Thu, 20 Nov 2008 19:58:26 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22509&PID=548511&title=what-if-birthcare-is-full#548511 <![CDATA[What if Birthcare is full? : Star wrote:Ginger - I can't...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22509&PID=546981&title=what-if-birthcare-is-full#546981 Author: ginger
Subject: 22509
Posted: 19 November 2008 at 9:20am

Star wrote:

Ginger - I can't believe you are 31 weeks now! Where has that time gone?

You can't believe it? Imagine how I'm feeling!

What has this baby been? Four years? More? in the making? I've completely lost track!

I did say to the husband the other day after doing a huge wash of all baby's things - bedding, clothing etc (early I know, but just in case ...) that our washing line really did *not* look like our washing line at all! I just kept staring at it!

Also, it's a hell of a lot easier to hang out big people clothes than newborn ones!!

]]> Wed, 19 Nov 2008 09:20:53 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22509&PID=546981&title=what-if-birthcare-is-full#546981 <![CDATA[What if Birthcare is full? : Mrs_B wrote:It is still free...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22509&PID=546952&title=what-if-birthcare-is-full#546952 Author: pikelets
Subject: 22509
Posted: 19 November 2008 at 8:37am

Mrs_B wrote:

It is still free here (Hamilton). All the rooms are private and you don't have to give birth there just have to transfer from hospital within 12hrs. And your husband or partner can stay for free too. They don't get meals though.

Thats awesome! Wish they had something like that on the North Shore.

3 hours before DS was born they were asking if people wanted to go home straight after birth or be transferred to Waitakare. Luckily for us, the time DS was born, I was stictched

and showered etc, it was about 9am and someone was getting discharged so I got a room.

My MW had said that if North Shore was full, then we would get transferred to Waitakere, Warkworth or Waikato Hospital! That happened to someone I knew but very very rare.

Ginger - I can't believe you are 31 weeks now! Where has that time gone? ]]> Wed, 19 Nov 2008 08:37:25 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22509&PID=546952&title=what-if-birthcare-is-full#546952 <![CDATA[What if Birthcare is full? : Well, that's the other thing...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22509&PID=546652&title=what-if-birthcare-is-full#546652 Author: ginger
Subject: 22509
Posted: 18 November 2008 at 5:52pm

Well, that's the other thing of course - if his nibs continues to hang out upside down (or, the right way up, but upside down to where he's supposed to be

) there'll be no point in worrying!

As it was, I talked to the person taking our antenatal classes last night which is affiliated with Birthcare and she said that it hardly ever happens that they're full - there are people rotating there constantly.

I'm back to relaxed now

Well ... kinda

]]> Tue, 18 Nov 2008 17:52:08 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22509&PID=546652&title=what-if-birthcare-is-full#546652 <![CDATA[What if Birthcare is full? : Nic01 wrote: Nefertiti wrote: You...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22509&PID=546517&title=what-if-birthcare-is-full#546517 Author: Paws
Subject: 22509
Posted: 18 November 2008 at 3:31pm

Nic01 wrote:

Nefertiti wrote:

You have to pay???? Wow...we don't here!

Only if you want a private room - shared rooms are fully subsidised.

Also North Shore and I think Waitakere people pay $480 per night if not birthing there.]]> Tue, 18 Nov 2008 15:31:34 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22509&PID=546517&title=what-if-birthcare-is-full#546517 <![CDATA[What if Birthcare is full? : I had my c/s on a Thursday afternoon...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22509&PID=546473&title=what-if-birthcare-is-full#546473 Author: Lulu
Subject: 22509
Posted: 18 November 2008 at 2:58pm

I had my c/s on a Thursday afternoon and was chomping at the bit to go home on Saturday morning. They made me stay one more night so I left first thing on Sunday. It seemed pointless to transfer to birthcare when I was basically ready to go home after two days. Plus my specialists practise was just up the road, so it was very convenient for him to come and see me at the hospital (north shore). Also, I thought because I'd had a c/s I might get a private room, but I ended up sharing with a lady who just had her third c/s. It ended up being an absolute GODSEND! She had so much helpful advice with regards to c/s recovery and routine with baby, I am so thankful.]]> Tue, 18 Nov 2008 14:58:51 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22509&PID=546473&title=what-if-birthcare-is-full#546473 <![CDATA[What if Birthcare is full? : I so had this panic a few months...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22509&PID=546413&title=what-if-birthcare-is-full#546413 Author: palomino
Subject: 22509
Posted: 18 November 2008 at 2:09pm

I so had this panic a few months back. had visions of turning up screaming in labour and being told there was no room. But thats just me being paranoid (fingers crossed) MW has reassured me plenty now that there will be room for me lol. BETTER BE!!]]> Tue, 18 Nov 2008 14:09:39 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22509&PID=546413&title=what-if-birthcare-is-full#546413 <![CDATA[What if Birthcare is full? : Also, Ginger if your having a...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22509&PID=546226&title=what-if-birthcare-is-full#546226 Author: TraceyA
Subject: 22509
Posted: 18 November 2008 at 10:33am

Also, Ginger if your having a scheduled C-section, then I'd call birthcare and tell them that and then they know exactly when your coming and will be ready for you.]]> Tue, 18 Nov 2008 10:33:01 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22509&PID=546226&title=what-if-birthcare-is-full#546226 <![CDATA[What if Birthcare is full? : Mrs_B wrote:It is still free...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22509&PID=546221&title=what-if-birthcare-is-full#546221 Author: TraceyA
Subject: 22509
Posted: 18 November 2008 at 10:31am

I thought that's how it worked in Auckland too. If you wanted to stay a few nights longer then they started to charge you per night for the room.]]> Tue, 18 Nov 2008 10:31:42 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22509&PID=546221&title=what-if-birthcare-is-full#546221 <![CDATA[What if Birthcare is full? : It is still free here (Hamilton)....]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22509&PID=546184&title=what-if-birthcare-is-full#546184 Author: Mrs_B
Subject: 22509
Posted: 18 November 2008 at 9:59am

It is still free here (Hamilton). All the rooms are private and you don't have to give birth there just have to transfer from hospital within 12hrs. And your husband or partner can stay for free too. They don't get meals though. ]]> Tue, 18 Nov 2008 09:59:00 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22509&PID=546184&title=what-if-birthcare-is-full#546184 <![CDATA[What if Birthcare is full? : but if you give birth there private...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22509&PID=546162&title=what-if-birthcare-is-full#546162 Author: mrshouse
Subject: 22509
Posted: 18 November 2008 at 9:31am

but if you give birth there private room is free

]]> Tue, 18 Nov 2008 09:31:36 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22509&PID=546162&title=what-if-birthcare-is-full#546162 <![CDATA[What if Birthcare is full? : Nefertiti wrote: You have...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22509&PID=546157&title=what-if-birthcare-is-full#546157 Author: Nic01
Subject: 22509
Posted: 18 November 2008 at 9:19am

Nefertiti wrote:

You have to pay???? Wow...we don't here!

Only if you want a private room - shared rooms are fully subsidised.]]> Tue, 18 Nov 2008 09:19:53 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22509&PID=546157&title=what-if-birthcare-is-full#546157 <![CDATA[What if Birthcare is full? : I know down here that if your...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22509&PID=545962&title=what-if-birthcare-is-full#545962 Author: emz
Subject: 22509
Posted: 17 November 2008 at 8:36pm

I know down here that if your first choice isn't free, they see about transferring you elsewhere, or otherwise keep you in hospital, as they have to give you the 48 hours for a vaginal birth at least, more for a c/s obviously.

When abouts in Jan are you due? I couldn't be induced when I was supposed to be (at 39 weeks, between Xmas and New Years) because they were on skeleton staff down here, and I think the longer wee bub stays in after New Years the better as they don't start putting full staff back on in most places till mid Jan. But... you obviously will get proper treatment lol. I didn't really care about where I was, I just cared that I got the drugs *woohoo drugs

*]]> Mon, 17 Nov 2008 20:36:46 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22509&PID=545962&title=what-if-birthcare-is-full#545962 <![CDATA[What if Birthcare is full? : Oh, I missed my own bed and my...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22509&PID=545904&title=what-if-birthcare-is-full#545904 Author: BugTeeny
Subject: 22509
Posted: 17 November 2008 at 7:54pm

Oh, I missed my own bed and my hubby too much to even consider staying in hospital/birth care.
I went home after one night.

But if I had the offer of creme brulee I may well have stayed longer

]]> Mon, 17 Nov 2008 19:54:45 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22509&PID=545904&title=what-if-birthcare-is-full#545904 <![CDATA[What if Birthcare is full? : ginger wrote: lilfatty wrote:Oh...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22509&PID=545883&title=what-if-birthcare-is-full#545883 Author: Nefertiti
Subject: 22509
Posted: 17 November 2008 at 7:18pm

ginger wrote:

lilfatty wrote:

Oh and I just had another thought ... maybe lots of Jan Mums are 2nd timers .. so they may in fact go straight home .. leaving room for you

Oh. I hadn't even thought of that!

I would have assumed that you'd get to stay in the hospital if Birthcare was full, but the um-ing and ah-ing and changing the subject threw me a bit ... still, Mr Man seems quite keen to come out via c/s at the moment, so I have bigger problems than whether I'll miss out on my Birthcare creme brulee

And, I suppose bearing in mind that the tour person also managed to tell us that a private room is $280 for your stay (instead of $280 per night) which would be quite lovely thank you very much, I probably should have just written her off

or actually, got her to sign something to that effect now that I think about it ...

You have to pay???? Wow...we don't here!]]> Mon, 17 Nov 2008 19:18:34 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22509&PID=545883&title=what-if-birthcare-is-full#545883 <![CDATA[What if Birthcare is full? : I asked my midwife what happened...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22509&PID=545872&title=what-if-birthcare-is-full#545872 Author: jaz
Subject: 22509
Posted: 17 November 2008 at 6:58pm

I asked my midwife what happened and she said it never happens, birthcare is booked well in advance and a lot of people end up not going to birthcare, just straight home from hospital. ]]> Mon, 17 Nov 2008 18:58:50 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22509&PID=545872&title=what-if-birthcare-is-full#545872 <![CDATA[What if Birthcare is full? : That was a really good question...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22509&PID=545671&title=what-if-birthcare-is-full#545671 Author: HippyMama
Subject: 22509
Posted: 17 November 2008 at 2:28pm

That was a really good question Ginger - but what a lame answer for them to give you

I am still considering whether I want to have Birthcare lined up as my 'plan B'...]]> Mon, 17 Nov 2008 14:28:06 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22509&PID=545671&title=what-if-birthcare-is-full#545671 <![CDATA[What if Birthcare is full? : Interestingly I asked the same...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22509&PID=545643&title=what-if-birthcare-is-full#545643 Author: MummyFreckle
Subject: 22509
Posted: 17 November 2008 at 2:12pm

Interestingly I asked the same question when we did our tour of Birthcare, and was told that it very rarely happens, but when it does you either stay at the hospital until a bed becomes available or you go home.

We had a private room at Birthcare, (luckily we got the one with the double bed so DH stayed the whole time!!) and we ended up staying 5 nights as we were having problems feeding, and because the paediatrician recommended we stay - the room continued to be subsidised.

]]> Mon, 17 Nov 2008 14:12:54 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22509&PID=545643&title=what-if-birthcare-is-full#545643 <![CDATA[What if Birthcare is full? : When I had Nyah I was told two...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22509&PID=545570&title=what-if-birthcare-is-full#545570 Author: .Mel
Subject: 22509
Posted: 17 November 2008 at 12:59pm

When I had Nyah I was told two hours after she was born that I wouldn't be able to transfer to Birthcare because they were full.

So I stayed at National Womans and had a room to myself, which was great... I was bummed at the time, and at no time during my stay at NW was any offer made to transfer to BC once there was a free bed.]]> Mon, 17 Nov 2008 12:59:30 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22509&PID=545570&title=what-if-birthcare-is-full#545570 <![CDATA[What if Birthcare is full? : lilfatty wrote: I unfortunately...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22509&PID=545453&title=what-if-birthcare-is-full#545453 Author: ginger
Subject: 22509
Posted: 17 November 2008 at 10:33am

lilfatty wrote:

I unfortunately had a bad reaction to the painkillers they gave me and had to stay in hospital the entire week ..

*sticks fingers in ears* La la la la la la la things never go wrong in childbirth la la la la la la and the story I heard yesterday about a girl rupturing a lung pushing is complete bollocks la la la la la la la ...

(and the two day transfer thing is right - you stay in care for 5 days apparently, 2 nights at the hospital and 3 at Birthcare

)]]> Mon, 17 Nov 2008 10:33:34 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22509&PID=545453&title=what-if-birthcare-is-full#545453 <![CDATA[What if Birthcare is full? : creme brulee!!!!! DOnt get that...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22509&PID=545434&title=what-if-birthcare-is-full#545434 Author: peanut butter
Subject: 22509
Posted: 17 November 2008 at 10:11am

creme brulee!!!!! DOnt get that down here.....( pouting now and stomping my foot...life is so unfair)]]> Mon, 17 Nov 2008 10:11:45 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22509&PID=545434&title=what-if-birthcare-is-full#545434 <![CDATA[What if Birthcare is full? : Well you can still transfer to...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22509&PID=545421&title=what-if-birthcare-is-full#545421 Author: lilfatty
Subject: 22509
Posted: 17 November 2008 at 10:00am

Well you can still transfer to birthcare after a c/s .. I think (off the top of my mummybrain) .. you can stay two days on hospital then you can transfer birthcare for the three days

(But dont quote me .. I unfortunately had a bad reaction to the painkillers they gave me and had to stay in hospital the entire week .. so I didnt get any creme brulee either!)

Maybe this time ...

]]> Mon, 17 Nov 2008 10:00:51 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22509&PID=545421&title=what-if-birthcare-is-full#545421 <![CDATA[What if Birthcare is full? : lilfatty wrote:Oh and I just...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22509&PID=545405&title=what-if-birthcare-is-full#545405 Author: ginger
Subject: 22509
Posted: 17 November 2008 at 9:45am

lilfatty wrote:

Oh and I just had another thought ... maybe lots of Jan Mums are 2nd timers .. so they may in fact go straight home .. leaving room for you

Oh. I hadn't even thought of that!

or actually, got her to sign something to that effect now that I think about it ...

]]> Mon, 17 Nov 2008 09:45:16 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22509&PID=545405&title=what-if-birthcare-is-full#545405 <![CDATA[What if Birthcare is full? : Oh and I just had another thought...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22509&PID=545376&title=what-if-birthcare-is-full#545376 Author: lilfatty
Subject: 22509
Posted: 17 November 2008 at 9:09am

Oh and I just had another thought ... maybe lots of Jan Mums are 2nd timers .. so they may in fact go straight home .. leaving room for you

]]> Mon, 17 Nov 2008 09:09:58 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22509&PID=545376&title=what-if-birthcare-is-full#545376 <![CDATA[What if Birthcare is full? : I had this happen to me but down...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22509&PID=545375&title=what-if-birthcare-is-full#545375 Author: cuppatea
Subject: 22509
Posted: 17 November 2008 at 9:09am

I had this happen to me but down in Christchurch, the hospital wanted to transfer me to burwood but it was full so i stayed an extra night at the hospital and then transfered the next day. She was probably only meaning you would hang out in the lounge for a bit if someone was leaving Birthcare and they were getting the room ready for you.]]> Mon, 17 Nov 2008 09:09:36 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22509&PID=545375&title=what-if-birthcare-is-full#545375 <![CDATA[What if Birthcare is full? : I would say the obvious thing...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22509&PID=545352&title=what-if-birthcare-is-full#545352 Author: Nefertiti
Subject: 22509
Posted: 17 November 2008 at 8:56am

I would say the obvious thing is you have to go to the hospital....or home for a homebirth. Pretty straight forward really. They can't exactly kick someone out if they are in about to give birth.
When you phone your midwife to say your ready to go to the birthing centre, they generally call the centre to say you are on your way. If there is no room you will get called to say go to the hospital.

Edited: Oh are you meaning afterwards? You should get your 48hours then if all is ok with you and baby, then you will be discharged.

Edited by Nefertiti]]> Mon, 17 Nov 2008 08:56:26 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22509&PID=545352&title=what-if-birthcare-is-full#545352 <![CDATA[What if Birthcare is full? : Ginger .. I would have thought...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22509&PID=545351&title=what-if-birthcare-is-full#545351 Author: lilfatty
Subject: 22509
Posted: 17 November 2008 at 8:54am

Ginger ..

I would have thought if you cant get into Birthcare they wouldnt transfer you and they would send you up the ward at the hospital (which isnt as swanky) .. but as a first time Mum you would still get the opportunity to learn the ropes from the nurses.

I wouldnt think they would just send you on your merry way home.]]> Mon, 17 Nov 2008 08:54:06 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22509&PID=545351&title=what-if-birthcare-is-full#545351 <![CDATA[What if Birthcare is full? : The husband and I did a tour of...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22509&PID=545337&title=what-if-birthcare-is-full#545337 Author: ginger
Subject: 22509
Posted: 17 November 2008 at 8:35am

The husband and I did a tour of Birthcare during the weekend as part of our general antenatal class recommendations.

One thing that I thought of as we were going around is that we are due in January - January is apparently chaos (LOTS of babies due) and Birthcare isn't really that big. So, I asked the person conducting our tour if they ever get full, and if so, what happens to us if there is no room?

First, she looked gobsmacked that I'd asked, and second she didn't seem to know how to answer me. What I got in response was a 'Um, well, hopefully you'll get to wait in the lounge at the hospital until we have some room, but we might not have room .... oh! and this is where you can cut flowers, and there's the visitor's toilet ..."

So, what I kind of got from that is that you get discharged from hospital as normal in the 2-4 (or 4-6 depending on who you're talking to) hours time frame, and if you can't get into Birthcare (I mean, what are you going to do? Spend a day or 2 possibly in the lounge at the hospital IF you're allowed?

), I guess you just go home (

).

Has anyone not been able to get into BIrthcare? If so, what did you do? I was feeling perfectly happy until this little possibility raised itself!

]]> Mon, 17 Nov 2008 08:35:26 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22509&PID=545337&title=what-if-birthcare-is-full#545337